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Old 01-31-2017, 01:49 PM
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We here at Livernois Motorsports have years of R&D into the 3.5 and 2.7 Ecoboost platforms along with the 5.0 Coyote in the F150 series pick-ups.
We offer many fine products for these vehicles such as tuning capabilities with our MyCalibrator handheld device.
We also offer the following:
  • Windstorm CAI
  • Evenflow 160 degree thermostat
  • Thunderstorm Exhaust
  • Powerstorm Shortblock and Engine Internals
  • Vendor for multiple different reputable companies

If there is anything that we can do for you, let us know how we can make your day better and your truck more powerful.
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I have heard and read a lot about your tune and customer service being great but the only thing that keeps me from buying your product and tune is the device you use. I like the sct livewire or x4 so I can actively monitor the trucks sensors.
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The heat in my 15 2.7 is very slow now... a 160 stat. would put me in a coat?? would it not?


Will a 180 work?


Will i need to change the spark plugs?
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I have heard and read a lot about your tune and customer service being great but the only thing that keeps me from buying your product and tune is the device you use. I like the sct livewire or x4 so I can actively monitor the trucks sensors.
If you have a secondary monitoring device you can still use that to monitor your sensors. Our unit is a flash tune device that does not require a constant connection with the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by E-TECH
The heat in my 15 2.7 is very slow now... a 160 stat. would put me in a coat?? would it not?


Will a 180 work?


Will i need to change the spark plugs?
The Evenflo 160 would not interfere with the vehicle's cabin heat. The thermostat would just open sooner to keep engine operating temperatures down, help with efficiency, and reduce power loss due to heat.
You would not need to change the plugs but if you tune the vehicle we do recommend changing the gap on the plugs.
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Livernoise, where are you guys at with tuning on the 2017 2nd gen 10spd 3.5 ecoboost?
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Livernoise, where are you guys at with tuning on the 2017 2nd gen 10spd 3.5 ecoboost?
Everything is in the pipeline but we have no ETA on this. Whenever we know if we are close, we will throw out a teaser. But as of right now, nothing.
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What kind of increases are you seeing on the 5.0 trucks with just a 91 or 93 tune?
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Will your tuning device ever be able to change the tire size in the trucks computer?

I can't justify spending money on a dedicated device that only changes the tire size.

Thanks!
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Two things:

1) I think Anthony mentioned (in an email exchange) the ability to do custom programming for the 6-spd Auto, beyond what's supplied with each tune. I've run both Stage 3 and Stage 1 tunes, Perf and Tow, but still not happy with the shift mapping ... they all err on the side of "lethargic" when it comes to downshifts with a grade change under steady (or off) throttle.

As everyone here knows, the stock programming in normal mode is heavily biased toward efficiency ... so even a modest 2-3% grade change at 30 mph will cause the engine to bog ("diesel") as it sits in 4th or even 5th gear until the engine hits idle speeds (around 1000 RPM) before finally downshifting. So I manually row through the N/T/S modes as needed to get it to kick down.

The problem then -- with staying in Tow mode, which I find is best for downshifting when power is needed -- is that it's overly aggressive on downshifts for compression braking (i.e., on a steep decline). And while Sport mode also helps offset the stupid efficiency bias of Normal mode, it holds 5th too long on the highway while also being pretty aggressive on downshifts when decelerating hard (coming to the end of an off ramp, for example). Both of those programs are operating as you might expect for their intended purposes -- towing or spirited driving. Unfortunately, they aren't perfect for day-to-day driving (where Normal mode falls short).

I'd love a shift algorithm that blends the "under load" immediacy of downshifts used for Tow with slightly longer gear holding from Sport on upshifts under acceleration with the rest of Normal (gets into 6th gear at freeway speeds, doesn't drop into 2nd at 45 mph while coming down a hill, etc). That would be perfection!

2) I've noticed under hard acceleration (WOT) in the Stage 3 tune I'm still getting knock/ping, despite running the pre-gapped plugs (and 160° thermostat). And it's pretty bad. I've had to dial back to one of the Stage 1 tunes to avoid it. I'm in Washington State and run either Shell or Chevron Premium (92 octane) exclusively. We don't get 93 octane here, and I'm wondering if that's having an effect. Ambient temps here hardly break 80°F in the Summer, and are pretty mild the rest of the year ... so it can't be heat soak or ambient related. Thoughts?

I've been running Livernois now for over a year on mine, and very happy otherwise. Nice balance between extracting untapped power/performance from the 3.5EB and every day drivability.
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