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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 02:13 PM
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Ford utilizes Auto-learn technology for its TPMS. I do not know which version of the technology Ford uses but here is an explanation of the two most common systems. And yes, sometimes it does not work the way it should. There are many factors which can cause the auto-learn to fail.

The following is from Standard Motor Products:

Auto-Relearn automatically identifies each TPMS sensor, determines its position on the vehicle, and wirelessly transmits the information to the receiver for display on the dash – all without human intervention. For a better understanding, here are two popular Auto-Relearn technologies.

Phase Angle Location (PAL) Technology

Phase Angle Location uses ABS data along with TPMS sensor data to transmit tire pressure, temperature, position, and directional rotation while the vehicle is being driven. Vehicles equipped with PAL systems utilize the data to accurately identify the TPMS sensors’ location and pressure, which is shown on the driver display.

Wireless Auto-Locate (WAL) Technology

Wireless Auto-Locate systems use advanced TPMS technology along with RF signal strength to determine sensor location after installing a new sensor or tire rotation.
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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 52merc
Ford utilizes Auto-learn technology for its TPMS. I do not know which version of the technology Ford uses but here is an explanation of the two most common systems. And yes, sometimes it does not work the way it should. There are many factors which can cause the auto-learn to fail.

The following is from Standard Motor Products:

Auto-Relearn automatically identifies each TPMS sensor, determines its position on the vehicle, and wirelessly transmits the information to the receiver for display on the dash – all without human intervention. For a better understanding, here are two popular Auto-Relearn technologies.

Phase Angle Location (PAL) Technology

Phase Angle Location uses ABS data along with TPMS sensor data to transmit tire pressure, temperature, position, and directional rotation while the vehicle is being driven. Vehicles equipped with PAL systems utilize the data to accurately identify the TPMS sensors’ location and pressure, which is shown on the driver display.

Wireless Auto-Locate (WAL) Technology

Wireless Auto-Locate systems use advanced TPMS technology along with RF signal strength to determine sensor location after installing a new sensor or tire rotation.
Where is that document to be found?
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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by franco74
new f150 owner here.
This is helpful.... thanks! I just bought a set of mounted 2021 Platinum take-offs with sensors left in them. I have a 2017 and hoping the sync up without issue.
I just dropped my rig at the tire place around the corner to have the new ones, balanced, swapped, and aligned with the new 2" leveling kit installed over the weekend.
Guys at the tire place was not sure if they would sync up.
I’ve had 4 13th gen F150’s, at least 10 different sets of wheels and tires, mostly oem. I’ve also had 2021 platinum wheels and tires on my 2019.

myself along with hundreds of others on this forum and hundreds on Facebook have successfully put oem take offs from other trucks without having to do anything “extra.”

if you search for 433 vs 315 TPMS you’ll find lots of threads of similar discussions or if you search for F150 TPMS you’ll find the same on here, other forums, and other Facebook groups.

few weeks ago to test my “luck,” I lowered the psi in one tire 5psi and then rotated it and the vehicle recognized the new location after driving it maybe 8 miles.

not doubting that ford or other shops have a tool to get your truck to relearn the new wheels/tires or locations but also don’t believe that I “lucked out” or got 4 “magical” trucks that somehow do something it wasnt designed to do assuming all the other parts are working as advertised (such as function tpms sensors and so forth).

in reply to the OPs original question, I’d either email a bigger ford store such as a fairway or Levittown and either explain what you are doing and ask, OR find a 2022 platinum for sale, copy the VIN, and email them asking what part number the truck takes for the TPMS sensors and compare to what you have.

again, to spare some the reply, just quoting my personal experience…it saved me quite a bit of money, really appreciate all the threads and responses I got from other members that ended up “working” for me…which also matched the advice my dealer gave me which was “hahahaha, just drive it a bit, it’ll work.”

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Old Oct 10, 2022 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by N4HHE
Where is that document to be found?
https://www.counterman.com/a-closer-...pms-operation/
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by franco74
great info.
Thanks
@franco74 Did you solve this issue? I have a 2017 F150 and just put 2024 F150 wheels on it. The normal relearn process doesn't work and I've driven a bit and the truck isn't picking them up. Not sure if I should take it to a shop to have the TPMS replaced with compatible ones for my year truck or if there is another solution? Trying to find out if a tool could help them 'see' each other as well.
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Originally Posted by Geraldn64
@franco74 Did you solve this issue? I have a 2017 F150 and just put 2024 F150 wheels on it. The normal relearn process doesn't work and I've driven a bit and the truck isn't picking them up. Not sure if I should take it to a shop to have the TPMS replaced with compatible ones for my year truck or if there is another solution? Trying to find out if a tool could help them 'see' each other as well.
2024’s have a different sensor than the previous years. My numbers will be off but they went from the 315hz to a 433hz or whatever
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Originally Posted by WVMoose
2024’s have a different sensor than the previous years. My numbers will be off but they went from the 315hz to a 433hz or whatever
From what I have seen the sensors changed for 2024. They did change to 433 MHz but there is a heck of a lot more difference than just "433 MHz". There are dozens (if not hundreds) of TPMS sensors on 433 MHz which are not 2024 Ford F-150 compatible.
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Old Nov 18, 2024 | 03:30 PM
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Pretty darn useless, word salad. Oooh! WAL and PAL. Magically locates sensors! Doesn't come close to explaining how just "magically uses ABS and signal strength and other sound like I know what I'm talking about" words.

Signal strength is a terrible unreliable means of locating sensors.
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Originally Posted by WVMoose
2024’s have a different sensor than the previous years. My numbers will be off but they went from the 315hz to a 433hz or whatever
Originally Posted by N4HHE
From what I have seen the sensors changed for 2024. They did change to 433 MHz but there is a heck of a lot more difference than just "433 MHz". There are dozens (if not hundreds) of TPMS sensors on 433 MHz which are not 2024 Ford F-150 compatible.
I’m not sure what all changed, just they are no longer interchangeable if your TPMS worked in a 2024.

currently have two sets of wheels and tires fully built with sensors in my shed, 2024 didn’t pick them up, 2022 did…deposit sent, lol

Ford Performance TPMS for 2024 is M-1180-433MHZ (fits 2024+)
Ford Performance TPMS for 2023 and older (not sure until when) is M-1180-B (fits 2015-2023)
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