Supercharged 5.0
08-19-2016, 11:27 PM
#3
I'm wondering the same thing. I was checking out the F150 Shelby that has a 5.0 V8 w/ supercharger getting 700hp and it makes me wonder.
Take the 3.5L Eco boost for example. I'm sure that the 3.5L ecoboost isn't just a naturally aspirated 3.5L engine with a turbo on it. Sure, you could probably take a regular 3.5L F150 and put an aftermarket turbo on it, but would it be the same? The 3.5L must have some other upgrades that make it turbo ready.
Whipple and Roush make a supercharger for the 5.0 for about $7,000 un-installed. Probably about another $2,000 to have someone install it. But is the 5.0 "supercharger ready"? What separates a regular n/a engine from one that is ready to accept a turbo or supercharger? What additional upgrades to the engine would have to be made, if any, so that it doesn't go "pop"?
Take the 3.5L Eco boost for example. I'm sure that the 3.5L ecoboost isn't just a naturally aspirated 3.5L engine with a turbo on it. Sure, you could probably take a regular 3.5L F150 and put an aftermarket turbo on it, but would it be the same? The 3.5L must have some other upgrades that make it turbo ready.
Whipple and Roush make a supercharger for the 5.0 for about $7,000 un-installed. Probably about another $2,000 to have someone install it. But is the 5.0 "supercharger ready"? What separates a regular n/a engine from one that is ready to accept a turbo or supercharger? What additional upgrades to the engine would have to be made, if any, so that it doesn't go "pop"?
Last edited by Rupert; 08-19-2016 at 11:30 PM.
08-19-2016, 11:31 PM
#4
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I'm wondering the same thing. I was checking out the F150 Shelby that has a 5.0 V8 w/ supercharger getting 700hp and it makes me wonder.
Take the 3.5L Eco boost for example. I'm sure that the 3.5L ecoboost isn't just a naturally aspirated 3.5L engine with a turbo on it. Sure, you could probably take a regular 3.5L F150 and put an aftermarket turbo on it, but would it be the same? The 3.5L must have some other upgrades that make it turbo ready.
Whipple and Roush make a supercharger for the 5.0 for about $7,000 un-installed. Probably about another $2,000 to have someone install it. But is the 5.0 "supercharger ready"? What separates a regular n/a engine from one that is ready to accept a turbo or supercharger? What additional upgrades to the engine would have to be made, if any, so that it doesn't go "pop"?
Take the 3.5L Eco boost for example. I'm sure that the 3.5L ecoboost isn't just a naturally aspirated 3.5L engine with a turbo on it. Sure, you could probably take a regular 3.5L F150 and put an aftermarket turbo on it, but would it be the same? The 3.5L must have some other upgrades that make it turbo ready.
Whipple and Roush make a supercharger for the 5.0 for about $7,000 un-installed. Probably about another $2,000 to have someone install it. But is the 5.0 "supercharger ready"? What separates a regular n/a engine from one that is ready to accept a turbo or supercharger? What additional upgrades to the engine would have to be made, if any, so that it doesn't go "pop"?
08-20-2016, 01:03 AM
#5
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I've long argued that factory naturally aspirated motors will never be as powerful or reliable boosted as motors that came boosted from the factory. The 2015+ 5.0 is proving me wrong. The engine has an extremely stout bottom end, robust fuel system, and stout transmission. Add to that the type of calibration that comes with the sc kits (2 bar speed density with all factory protections in place, plus more) and you wind up with something nearly as good or as good as factory forced induction. These trucks are making 500-600 rwhp and no one has reported breaking one yet. I find more comfort in the fact that the mustangs are making 700-850 rwhp on the same stock bottom end and transmission. The 2nd gen lightnings, however, have suffered plenty of engine and transmission failures at power levels well below these, and they were factory forced induction.
Last edited by engineermike; 08-20-2016 at 01:05 AM.
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LSchicago (08-20-2016)
08-20-2016, 10:17 AM
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Yes, the 5.0 was designed to be boosted. They handle 800+ HP easily stock with a proper tune.
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08-20-2016, 06:36 PM
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I had the Roush S/C and exhaust installed on my '16 Screw by a Roush authorized dealer before I took it from the dealership. I didn't want the flashy Roush bits (over-priced IMHO anyhow)...I prefer keeping it lowkey. I saved a little on the install as part of the truck purchase. I emphasised "authorized dealer" because I also purchased a 3/36,000 warranty from Roush in case I manage to grenade a motor or tranny (you know ford wasn't going to cover that). I doubt it will happen but I wanted the pece of mind.
The new S/C's are great. You don't realize they are even there until you get on it. Fuel mileage is regulated by your right foot. I can barely hear any whine and then it is only at low speeds with little throttle, after that all you hear is the exhaust. I could have lived with a little more S/C noise though.
Traction is obviously a big issue. My truck has an open diff and I haven't been able to find anyone making a limited slip for the 15+ trucks. Don't forget you need to run premium gas in case that is a factor for you.
The truck is stupid fast...I have had it a little over a month and am still getting used to it. I know I can be at 80 before I know it. My work car is a '12 Dodge Charger with the 5.7 Hemi (375 hp) and I thought that moved out nicely.
I am thoroughly pleased with it and call me petty but that 3.5 Eco will never sound as cool as the 5.0.....I have had many different types of vehicles and my favorite exhaust sounds came from my '87 Iroc-Z, Jetta GLX VR6, and my Subaru STi. Unique sounds in there own respective way.
And no, it isn't cheap.....I have yet to see any deals on the S/C's.
On a side note, I never used the sport mode on the transmission during my test drive. Does it blip the throttle on downshifts from the factory or was that part of the Roush programmimg? All I know is it is pretty cool, almost makes the truck sound like a manual transmission being downshifted as it comes to a stop.
The new S/C's are great. You don't realize they are even there until you get on it. Fuel mileage is regulated by your right foot. I can barely hear any whine and then it is only at low speeds with little throttle, after that all you hear is the exhaust. I could have lived with a little more S/C noise though.
Traction is obviously a big issue. My truck has an open diff and I haven't been able to find anyone making a limited slip for the 15+ trucks. Don't forget you need to run premium gas in case that is a factor for you. The truck is stupid fast...I have had it a little over a month and am still getting used to it. I know I can be at 80 before I know it. My work car is a '12 Dodge Charger with the 5.7 Hemi (375 hp) and I thought that moved out nicely.
I am thoroughly pleased with it and call me petty but that 3.5 Eco will never sound as cool as the 5.0.....I have had many different types of vehicles and my favorite exhaust sounds came from my '87 Iroc-Z, Jetta GLX VR6, and my Subaru STi. Unique sounds in there own respective way.
And no, it isn't cheap.....I have yet to see any deals on the S/C's.
On a side note, I never used the sport mode on the transmission during my test drive. Does it blip the throttle on downshifts from the factory or was that part of the Roush programmimg? All I know is it is pretty cool, almost makes the truck sound like a manual transmission being downshifted as it comes to a stop.
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shftat6 (08-21-2016)
08-20-2016, 10:18 PM
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