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Originally Posted by mikepier
(Post 5693799)
Never said I was whining. Just simply asked what my obligations are, and was curious if any one else had this issue before.
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Originally Posted by TomD
(Post 5693755)
It's only $42 on a $60,000 truck. IMO, from an ethical standpoint you owe the $42...just pay it and move on. Only $42 to keep your integrity intact...priceless!
JMHO
Originally Posted by digitaltrucker
(Post 5693803)
They place a lein on it!
Originally Posted by XLT Shaker
(Post 5693865)
I969, I bought a new Maverick. Just married, not much money so I had the insurance figured into car payments for 3 years. Not long after I get a call saying that they had my age (19) wrong and misfigured insurance premium. Instead of redoing all the paperwork, they would just cut the coverage to 20 months. Not knowing any better, I agreed. I really believe I was scammed by the dealer, I had given them my correct age.
1985/86, my brother bought an Yugo new. It was all decked out sports model, looked pretty good. He had gotten a really good deal, extended warranty and all. Shortly after, he gets a call saying that because of his rank (he was in the Coast Guard), his payment was too high. So in order to get payment in line, they had to drop the extended warranty. Not knowing any better, he agreed and just after factory warranty ran out, the engine went. I believe he was scammed as well because he had originally gotten such a good deal and the dealer didn't like it. It might only be a few dollars, but when you fill out everything properly and they come back with, "we and/or you made a mistake"... it's the principal of the thing. Could be a honest mistake. And like someone mentioned, what's $40 out of $60k? Ask the same question to the dealer. In the case with the Maverick, it was a couple hundred out of $2k. A lot of money back then. I believe the dealer made enough off the sale, that he should absorb the mistake. My opinion. 1st thing I would do is call the dealer/salesman and let him know if their mistake isn't handled in house they can kiss your future business good by. Whether you are obligated or not your dealer should take care of this. They made their money. They made the mistake. How many of you contact a customer after selling them something and tell them you made a mistake and they owe you $42? I wouldn't pay it without making a couple of calls to the dealer 1st. Has nothing to do with having or not having the money and I really don't care what any of all these righteous people on here would or wouldn't do. |
[QUOTE] Has nothing to do with having or not having the money and I really don't care what any of all these righteous people on here would or wouldn't do./QUOTE]
I know now not to ever buy a truck or anything from you. Forgive some of us that have a moral compass and feel we should fulfill our obligations. Its not like they are coming back to him saying they didn't quite make the profit they needed on the deal so can you send us more money. The DMV calculation was off and they didnt collect enough initially to cover it. Seems completely reasonable and fair. Legally does the OP have to pay?, probably. Any ramifications if he chooses not to pay, not likely. Will he sleep better at night if he does pay, hopefully. |
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Has nothing to do with having or not having the money and I really don't care what any of all these righteous people on here would or wouldn't do./QUOTE] I know now not to ever buy a truck or anything from you. Forgive some of us that have a moral compass and feel we should fulfill our obligations. Its not like they are coming back to him saying they didn't quite make the profit they needed on the deal so can you send us more money. The DMV calculation was off and they didnt collect enough initially to cover it. Seems completely reasonable and fair. Legally does the OP have to pay?, probably. Any ramifications if he chooses not to pay, not likely. Will he sleep better at night if he does pay, hopefully. I think my itrader here with a big three transactions, soon to be four speaks well enough for me not counting my over 1000 - 100% ebay feedback. I gave an opinion. You are not required to like it or agree with it anymore than I am with yours or anyone elses. |
Listen, $42 is not going to make or break me. If this is the norm, I have no problem paying it.
I always thought the dealers got everything right down to the penny when you drive off the lot based on my past purchases, but apparently not the case. |
Originally Posted by mikepier
(Post 5693987)
Listen, $42 is not going to make or break me. If this is the norm, I have no problem paying it.
I always thought the dealers got everything right down to the penny when you drive off the lot based on my past purchases, but apparently not the case. Then if you feel you owe it you can pay it. They may surprise you and tell you not to even worry about since you took the time to call them and follow-up. I wouldn't say its normal but know for a fact it does legitimately happen. I have family that owns a dealer that absorb the small differences internally and never notifies the buyer so many people are not even aware this happens. |
Any number of things can have altered this. Changes in exact value that they registered the vehicle as, changes in state law, wtf ever. Just pay the 42 dollars and move on, it's NOT as uncommon as you would think.
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Originally Posted by XLT Shaker
(Post 5693865)
I969, I bought a new Maverick. Just married, not much money so I had the insurance figured into car payments for 3 years. Not long after I get a call saying that they had my age (19) wrong and misfigured insurance premium. Instead of redoing all the paperwork, they would just cut the coverage to 20 months. Not knowing any better, I agreed. I really believe I was scammed by the dealer, I had given them my correct age.
1985/86, my brother bought an Yugo new. It was all decked out sports model, looked pretty good. He had gotten a really good deal, extended warranty and all. Shortly after, he gets a call saying that because of his rank (he was in the Coast Guard), his payment was too high. So in order to get payment in line, they had to drop the extended warranty. Not knowing any better, he agreed and just after factory warranty ran out, the engine went. I believe he was scammed as well because he had originally gotten such a good deal and the dealer didn't like it. It might only be a few dollars, but when you fill out everything properly and they come back with, "we and/or you made a mistake"... it's the principal of the thing. Could be a honest mistake. And like someone mentioned, what's $40 out of $60k? Ask the same question to the dealer. In the case with the Maverick, it was a couple hundred out of $2k. A lot of money back then. I believe the dealer made enough off the sale, that he should absorb the mistake. My opinion. |
Originally Posted by idrive
(Post 5693924)
Exactly. it's only $42. The dealer made several thousand $'s and IMO made a mistake. As many cars/trucks as they title they should know the expense. How many of you were over charged and never saw a refund?
[color=#333333] Not his fault the dealer made the mistake. If the $42 isn't that big of a deal to you maybe you should offer to pay it for him. More than $42 would be spent putting a lien on the truck.... can't imagine the "good will" would be worth it. I agree. They should be all but embarrassed to come back and even ask for it. 1st thing I would do is call the dealer/salesman and let him know if their mistake isn't handled in house they can kiss your future business good by. Whether you are obligated or not your dealer should take care of this. They made their money. They made the mistake. How many of you contact a customer after selling them something and tell them you made a mistake and they owe you $42? I wouldn't pay it without making a couple of calls to the dealer 1st. Has nothing to do with having or not having the money and I really don't care what any of all these righteous people on here would or wouldn't do. |
Common practice in WA is to estimate and include the actual state fees. It isn't an area the dealer is trying to make profits on they are collecting the fees and doing this as a service to the Customer. Perhaps if you negotiated an OTD number it would make sense that you didn't pay difference, yet they would refund the difference if less than what they charged! As others have said dealers who estimate have a common practice to refund by check the difference between what was charged and what was paid. On the same token they have the practice of collecting any overages. When dealing with State Gov't it is complicated and there is no way to generally get the fees 100% correct.
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