Looking to buy a 2017, need some advice.
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Looking to buy a 2017, need some advice.
If i'm in the wrong place, please redirect me.
Just rented a 2017 4 dr and I'm in love. I', definitely buying one, and getting rid of my grand cherokee piece of junk. I have some basic questions:
1. Whats the difference between a super cab and super crew? Is the Cab bigger?
2. I'm unsure which engine to get. I'm primarily interested in the v8, although the v6 sees pretty powerful. Any thoughts on engines would be appreciated.
3. Do people here prefer to buy a truck stripped down mostly, with limited options and then add them on afterwards, or does it make more sense to just add the dealer options up front. seems it would cost slightly more, I'm unsure.
4. Tonneau covers, what are your thought and recommendations. This is mostly going to be a city car for me, NYC. I'm going to want access to teh bed regularly, using it like i would a trunk, and probably using a bed divider to block out the last few feet of the bed for access. I'll still want to cover the bed though, and also want something which can be easily removed and modified according to my various needs. This is one place where I dont mind spending a bit more.
5. What size tires do you run on these, are stock perfectly fine? Are those usually 17"? Does anyone lift their truck? I'm not sure that would be necessary for my city driving.
6. Preferences regarding interior would be interesting to hear. theres a lot of dealer options, and im unclear on all of them. Obviously im going to head to a dealr to see for myself, but i'd rather go in prepared, than simply be at the mercy of the salesman. I kind of like the fold down middle seat in the front, makes for a great arm rest.
7. GPS/radio/rear view monitor: do you buy aftermarket on these, or is there a unist that does it all? I want all of the above, but im unsire of i should go with the factory option or not. it's pretty expensive so i want to get that right.
8. Keyless entry, remote starter: same question, do you go cheap out the door and then buy aftermarket on this or does ford have a good viper like product that is worth buying in the dealership?
9. Bumper guards, grilles/ sidebars, floorboards, tailsteps: What your preference and why? I like a good side runner board, and possibly a well made tail step, as well as a good grill guard. Id appreicate hearing what your preferences are and why.
10. How do you load your dogs up, especially of you have a baby in the back. is there any kind of decent option to load dogs in the bed without seeming like an animal abuser?
11. Price. Whats this thing going to cost me, and whats the cheapest way to buy the most truck possible. are there any deals i should know about? I aint rich.
Thanks guys! I cant wait to buy this awesome truck.
jason
Just rented a 2017 4 dr and I'm in love. I', definitely buying one, and getting rid of my grand cherokee piece of junk. I have some basic questions:
1. Whats the difference between a super cab and super crew? Is the Cab bigger?
2. I'm unsure which engine to get. I'm primarily interested in the v8, although the v6 sees pretty powerful. Any thoughts on engines would be appreciated.
3. Do people here prefer to buy a truck stripped down mostly, with limited options and then add them on afterwards, or does it make more sense to just add the dealer options up front. seems it would cost slightly more, I'm unsure.
4. Tonneau covers, what are your thought and recommendations. This is mostly going to be a city car for me, NYC. I'm going to want access to teh bed regularly, using it like i would a trunk, and probably using a bed divider to block out the last few feet of the bed for access. I'll still want to cover the bed though, and also want something which can be easily removed and modified according to my various needs. This is one place where I dont mind spending a bit more.
5. What size tires do you run on these, are stock perfectly fine? Are those usually 17"? Does anyone lift their truck? I'm not sure that would be necessary for my city driving.
6. Preferences regarding interior would be interesting to hear. theres a lot of dealer options, and im unclear on all of them. Obviously im going to head to a dealr to see for myself, but i'd rather go in prepared, than simply be at the mercy of the salesman. I kind of like the fold down middle seat in the front, makes for a great arm rest.
7. GPS/radio/rear view monitor: do you buy aftermarket on these, or is there a unist that does it all? I want all of the above, but im unsire of i should go with the factory option or not. it's pretty expensive so i want to get that right.
8. Keyless entry, remote starter: same question, do you go cheap out the door and then buy aftermarket on this or does ford have a good viper like product that is worth buying in the dealership?
9. Bumper guards, grilles/ sidebars, floorboards, tailsteps: What your preference and why? I like a good side runner board, and possibly a well made tail step, as well as a good grill guard. Id appreicate hearing what your preferences are and why.
10. How do you load your dogs up, especially of you have a baby in the back. is there any kind of decent option to load dogs in the bed without seeming like an animal abuser?
11. Price. Whats this thing going to cost me, and whats the cheapest way to buy the most truck possible. are there any deals i should know about? I aint rich.
Thanks guys! I cant wait to buy this awesome truck.
jason
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1) Super Cab
Super Crew
As far as the question of price, you will get the best rebates on the XLT trim level... some of these come very well equipped with what you are asking for - I.E. remote start, GPS, rear view camera, etc.
Super Crew
As far as the question of price, you will get the best rebates on the XLT trim level... some of these come very well equipped with what you are asking for - I.E. remote start, GPS, rear view camera, etc.
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The Supercrew is a full 4 doors and lots of space inside.
The Supercab has 2 rear suicide doors and much less space. ( mentioned baby. Had a loaner supercab and the front seat was all way up to fit it rear facing car seat and with my long legs there was no room behind me for mama to sit.)
The engine depends on what your trying to do. Is this just a ride to drive all around or will you be hauling. If not using to haul or tow the 2.7 is more that enough especially if your used to the Grand Cherokee.
Looling for a deal buy a 16 as the 17's are out or wait until the 18 is rolling out to grab the huge factory cash on the old model. (Just got 6800 in factory cash in November as they are trying to clear them out.
The rest is what you like. If you mod your self you risk messing up or harming your warrenty if not done correctly. But the dealer sometimes charges too much for some upgrades.
I currently have a 16 XL Sport 4x4. The bottom tier but has 8k in factory upgrades and love it way more than my current loaner 17' barebones XLT (next step up).
My wheels are stock 20's but they very on packages and trim levels.
Prepare to spend $40K+
The Supercab has 2 rear suicide doors and much less space. ( mentioned baby. Had a loaner supercab and the front seat was all way up to fit it rear facing car seat and with my long legs there was no room behind me for mama to sit.)
The engine depends on what your trying to do. Is this just a ride to drive all around or will you be hauling. If not using to haul or tow the 2.7 is more that enough especially if your used to the Grand Cherokee.
Looling for a deal buy a 16 as the 17's are out or wait until the 18 is rolling out to grab the huge factory cash on the old model. (Just got 6800 in factory cash in November as they are trying to clear them out.
The rest is what you like. If you mod your self you risk messing up or harming your warrenty if not done correctly. But the dealer sometimes charges too much for some upgrades.
I currently have a 16 XL Sport 4x4. The bottom tier but has 8k in factory upgrades and love it way more than my current loaner 17' barebones XLT (next step up).
My wheels are stock 20's but they very on packages and trim levels.
Prepare to spend $40K+
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Whats the difference between xl and xlt, and why do they offer better rebates and incentives for one over the other? Also, does box size matter with this? since i live in the city, and this isnt a work truck, so i want the smallest box possible, im just not sure if the various configurations allow for all different box sizes.
For reference, i want a 4x4, v8 (i think, im still unsure about engine), 6 speed auto (i think ten sp is better for towing, and i dont tow often or heavy).
Also, whats cliffs?
thanks!
Jason
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Thanks for that. Clearly i want the super crew, as the cab is too small for me.
Whats the difference between xl and xlt, and why do they offer better rebates and incentives for one over the other? Also, does box size matter with this? since i live in the city, and this isnt a work truck, so i want the smallest box possible, im just not sure if the various configurations allow for all different box sizes.
For reference, i want a 4x4, v8 (i think, im still unsure about engine), 6 speed auto (i think ten sp is better for towing, and i dont tow often or heavy).
Also, whats cliffs?
thanks!
Jason
Whats the difference between xl and xlt, and why do they offer better rebates and incentives for one over the other? Also, does box size matter with this? since i live in the city, and this isnt a work truck, so i want the smallest box possible, im just not sure if the various configurations allow for all different box sizes.
For reference, i want a 4x4, v8 (i think, im still unsure about engine), 6 speed auto (i think ten sp is better for towing, and i dont tow often or heavy).
Also, whats cliffs?
thanks!
Jason
Standard with a supercab (suicide short door) is a 6 1/2' bed. With a super crew (full 4 doors) is a 5.5' box (the smallest you can get) standard.
If you do light towing (4k lbs or less), you won't need anything bigger than the 2.7L. IMHO, the 2.7 is a great engine, minus the "mandatory" start stop feature that shuts off the engine when fully stopped. The 2.7 usually has the most rebates enginewise. if you're looking for the most bang for your buck, get the XLT supercrew with the 2.7 and 302A package. My father and I both bought our trucks a month apart..
I got the sterling grey XLT supercab 4x4 with the chrome package and 302A with the 2.7L. Mine was $44.3k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, I paid $35k tax INCLUDED (we have 11% sales tax in Chicago).
Dad got the silver XLT supercrew 4x4 with the chrome pachage, 302A, and the 2.7L. His was $46.5k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, he paid $36.7k tax INCLUDED.
There are deals to be had, but this configuration, by far, has the best rebates unless you go up to Lariat or Platinum.
If gas mileage somewhat matters, I drive 95% city.. Averaging 17.8-18.5 by hand calculations with my 2.7L. after 10k miles.
As for the 6 spd vs. 10 spd tranny, don't be the trial and error guy, wait a year until they fix the kinks in the 10 spd.
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Thanks for that. Clearly i want the super crew, as the cab is too small for me.
Whats the difference between xl and xlt, and why do they offer better rebates and incentives for one over the other? Also, does box size matter with this? since i live in the city, and this isnt a work truck, so i want the smallest box possible, im just not sure if the various configurations allow for all different box sizes.
For reference, i want a 4x4, v8 (i think, im still unsure about engine), 6 speed auto (i think ten sp is better for towing, and i dont tow often or heavy).
Also, whats cliffs?
thanks!
Jason
Whats the difference between xl and xlt, and why do they offer better rebates and incentives for one over the other? Also, does box size matter with this? since i live in the city, and this isnt a work truck, so i want the smallest box possible, im just not sure if the various configurations allow for all different box sizes.
For reference, i want a 4x4, v8 (i think, im still unsure about engine), 6 speed auto (i think ten sp is better for towing, and i dont tow often or heavy).
Also, whats cliffs?
thanks!
Jason
the XLT are the mid - level trucks followed by Lariat, Platinum, King Ranch, And the most expensive of the group is the Limited. For some reason (even though they are high priced) they have put the Raptor's around the same pecking order as Lariats
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The XL is the "bare bones" model. Bare bones means something much different in 2016 than it did in 2006 though. Look up the packages (i.e 100A, 101A for XL and 300A,301A,302A for XLT). Just see what you want and need. XLT usually has tons more rebates than XLs though.
Standard with a supercab (suicide short door) is a 6 1/2' bed. With a super crew (full 4 doors) is a 5.5' box (the smallest you can get) standard.
If you do light towing (4k lbs or less), you won't need anything bigger than the 2.7L. IMHO, the 2.7 is a great engine, minus the "mandatory" start stop feature that shuts off the engine when fully stopped. The 2.7 usually has the most rebates enginewise. if you're looking for the most bang for your buck, get the XLT supercrew with the 2.7 and 302A package. My father and I both bought our trucks a month apart..
I got the sterling grey XLT supercab 4x4 with the chrome package and 302A with the 2.7L. Mine was $44.3k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, I paid $35k tax INCLUDED (we have 11% sales tax in Chicago).
Dad got the silver XLT supercrew 4x4 with the chrome pachage, 302A, and the 2.7L. His was $46.5k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, he paid $36.7k tax INCLUDED.
There are deals to be had, but this configuration, by far, has the best rebates unless you go up to Lariat or Platinum.
If gas mileage somewhat matters, I drive 95% city.. Averaging 17.8-18.5 by hand calculations with my 2.7L. after 10k miles.
As for the 6 spd vs. 10 spd tranny, don't be the trial and error guy, wait a year until they fix the kinks in the 10 spd.
Standard with a supercab (suicide short door) is a 6 1/2' bed. With a super crew (full 4 doors) is a 5.5' box (the smallest you can get) standard.
If you do light towing (4k lbs or less), you won't need anything bigger than the 2.7L. IMHO, the 2.7 is a great engine, minus the "mandatory" start stop feature that shuts off the engine when fully stopped. The 2.7 usually has the most rebates enginewise. if you're looking for the most bang for your buck, get the XLT supercrew with the 2.7 and 302A package. My father and I both bought our trucks a month apart..
I got the sterling grey XLT supercab 4x4 with the chrome package and 302A with the 2.7L. Mine was $44.3k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, I paid $35k tax INCLUDED (we have 11% sales tax in Chicago).
Dad got the silver XLT supercrew 4x4 with the chrome pachage, 302A, and the 2.7L. His was $46.5k sticker. With all the XLT and 2.7L engine rebates, he paid $36.7k tax INCLUDED.
There are deals to be had, but this configuration, by far, has the best rebates unless you go up to Lariat or Platinum.
If gas mileage somewhat matters, I drive 95% city.. Averaging 17.8-18.5 by hand calculations with my 2.7L. after 10k miles.
As for the 6 spd vs. 10 spd tranny, don't be the trial and error guy, wait a year until they fix the kinks in the 10 spd.