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Old 01-22-2018, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by sailorjerry
Actually with a 400 mile range, a short route driver could drive most of the day, and across the pond a driver could drive across an entire country.

I don't think the battery technology is so far off that they can't make it work. The recharging is where the greatest current challenges are.

While the system can be recharged in the half hour that is claimed, its the equivalent of plugging in a small city. To provide the requirements that a truck stop would need is going to be the deal maker/breaker for most of the EV industry.

Most of these new trucks are going to be going to EU where they have laws on the books to phase out combustion motors in about another 8 years. This is more than likely reflected in the decision for the center steering config. One model to sell globally.

Tesla has been ordering equipment from us like crazy, Electric Semi's will be here sooner rather than later.

Just think in 1915 the main method of transportation in the United States was walking and 10 years later everyone had a Tin Lizzie.

It's more like 200-300 mile range, and at a cost of at least $200,000. There may be a 500 mile rig, and that could be $250,000 to $300,000 in cost. Then there is the weight to consider. Truckers make money on weight hauled, the lighter their truck, the more freight they can haul, they also make money when on the road, not sitting in a truck stop.

Two things besides cost go against what Tesla is trying to do, the first is the weight penalty of batteries to obtain a doable range, and the second is the ability to recharge, and recharge quickly.

Tesla is the leader when it comes to electric vehicles, but until electric storage capacity can be increased while reducing weight, it is just not viable for pickup trucks yet, but maybe in 10 years it will be mainstream. Just not in the next few years.
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Originally Posted by sailorjerry
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........................The recharging is where the greatest current challenges are.

While the system can be recharged in the half hour that is claimed, its the equivalent of plugging in a small city. To provide the requirements that a truck stop would need is going to be the deal maker/breaker for most of the EV industry.
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There is another practical issue with plug-ins that folks don't think about. The current electric utility grid doesn't have the capacity for everyone to switch to electric cars.

The amount of surplus electrical generation capacity available in the summer is very low during the day, and can drop to zero...which causes rolling brownouts. Peak plants are currently used, to supply this additional need. They are less efficient and more costly to operate. Some even run on diesel.

Most people can charge their vehicle at night, when peak demand is lower. However, charging an EV requires substantially more power than even your home AC (example, a Tesla battery pack is 60-100kWh...a 4-ton central AC unit consumes approx 5kW each hour). If everyone had an EV, then peak power consumption would migrate to night, rather than being during the day. Solar plants will be offline at night...but coal, wind, nuclear, NG, and diesel will still run.

So, new power plants will have to be built, the distribution grid will need to be upgraded, and some branch lines, transformers, and homes simply won't be able to support the load in rural areas. This will cause the price of electricity to go up. Municipalities are mostly leaving the power generation market. It has been privatizing at a surprising speed. Power today is cheaper than power will be in the future. Private companies exist to earn a profit and they will only offer power if they can make a buck doing it. It's the same for upgrading the grids, it'll be done, but it'll be done at a price.
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