View Poll Results: Who follows the oil life monitor?
Yes, always follow the oil life monitor
125
52.74%
No, I'm not taking the chance and I change my oil early
112
47.26%
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How many follow the oil life monitor?
11-02-2017, 11:51 AM
#61
aw so cute.
1) I suspect his dealer smurfed up the original repair
2) he should have called Ford customer care immediately
3) he should have named the **** dealer
and finally 4) like every other auto board I have ever read - if you do your own MX you need to keep your own log of it and receipts. If for no other reason than the liability while under warranty - in case you need it.
but whatever right.
I still sit by my other statements - for those that worship not using the OLM at all - make sure you don't follow any other recommendation in the manual for other MX activities. Any of them.
1) I suspect his dealer smurfed up the original repair
2) he should have called Ford customer care immediately
3) he should have named the **** dealer
and finally 4) like every other auto board I have ever read - if you do your own MX you need to keep your own log of it and receipts. If for no other reason than the liability while under warranty - in case you need it.
but whatever right.
I still sit by my other statements - for those that worship not using the OLM at all - make sure you don't follow any other recommendation in the manual for other MX activities. Any of them.
11-02-2017, 11:54 AM
#62
WHAT??? THE POLL IS 50-50!! HALF OF YOU WILL HAVE TRUCKS THAT WILL EXPLODE!!
I'm not saying which half.
I'm not saying which half.
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STeXy (11-02-2017)
11-02-2017, 12:18 PM
#63
Senior Member
I don't follow the OLM and do an oil change every 5k miles....... and here's why: bought a certified pre-owned 525 with about 70k on the clock. Engine didn't use a drop of oil. Figured that since it was a BMW and the Germans are serious about engineering, just trust the OLM. Well I did and I'm sorry that I did because over time, it got to the point that I was adding a quart about every thousand miles. You would think with that kind of oil consumption, I would be laying enough of a smokescreen to cover an amphibious landing.... but it really didn't smoke. Oil loss wasn't from leaks either as I am a maintenance nut and would fix any as they were found.
I don't know if the oil consumption was accelerated by wear from whatever built up in the oil, but there is no way I'm taking that chance again. FWIW, I finally had enough of the 525 at about 185k.
As they say, your mileage may vary
I don't know if the oil consumption was accelerated by wear from whatever built up in the oil, but there is no way I'm taking that chance again. FWIW, I finally had enough of the 525 at about 185k.
As they say, your mileage may vary
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STeXy (11-02-2017)
11-02-2017, 12:22 PM
#64
Senior Member
Great gimmick for them. Ford's "The Works" package, which includes a lot more than an oil change, is $39.95, often $29.95 after $10 rebate.
$300 / $39.95 = 7.5 changes. Given the norm for most people will be around every 8 - 12 months (based on 12,000 - 15,000 miles a year), for most people this would be five years of prepaid changes. So, if you're going to follow the IOLM, and you own your vehicle for more than 5 years, it might not be a bad deal. If you change it more, then it's a good deal. If you own it less than 5 years (the average person does), not a good deal.
Of course "The Works" provides tire rotation, fluid level check, brake check, etc. in addition to an oil change.
$300 / $39.95 = 7.5 changes. Given the norm for most people will be around every 8 - 12 months (based on 12,000 - 15,000 miles a year), for most people this would be five years of prepaid changes. So, if you're going to follow the IOLM, and you own your vehicle for more than 5 years, it might not be a bad deal. If you change it more, then it's a good deal. If you own it less than 5 years (the average person does), not a good deal.
Of course "The Works" provides tire rotation, fluid level check, brake check, etc. in addition to an oil change.
11-02-2017, 02:35 PM
#65
Senior Member
I rigged up a system that circulates fresh 90 degree F Pennzoil super synthetic through my 2.7 when it's parked in the heated and cooled basement. I'll feel better about the engines longevity before I trade it at low mileage.
11-02-2017, 03:39 PM
#66
3,000 miles was a prudent oil change interval when:
Gas was leaded
Engines were carbureted
Crankcases were open to the atmosphere
Oil additives were primitive
Synthetic oil didn't exist
Engine metallurgy was crude
In other words, over 50 years ago. Old habits die hard, or not at all.
I plan on keeping my truck a long time, too. I follow the OLM and I don't worry about it it all. There will be many, many things that wear out or fail before there is ever any meaningful wear of oil lubricated surfaces inside the engine.
Gas was leaded
Engines were carbureted
Crankcases were open to the atmosphere
Oil additives were primitive
Synthetic oil didn't exist
Engine metallurgy was crude
In other words, over 50 years ago. Old habits die hard, or not at all.
I plan on keeping my truck a long time, too. I follow the OLM and I don't worry about it it all. There will be many, many things that wear out or fail before there is ever any meaningful wear of oil lubricated surfaces inside the engine.
11-02-2017, 04:22 PM
#67
I am on track to change the O/F every 7500 miles because that is what I prepaid for as part of the maintenance package. The numbers worked out to be slightly less than the cost of the o/f change for the whole package and I like the idea that all I have to buy for the next 8 years is gas, tires, and the non-warranty part of the batter replacements.
YMMV
YMMV
11-02-2017, 04:29 PM
#68
Official HTT Greeter
11-02-2017, 04:35 PM
#69
Senior Member
well yes it is - but you also more or less drive the say way in the same patterns mile after mile. So yes it's going to routinely come up with similar numbers if you run a similar routine.
I don't follow the OLM and do an oil change every 5k miles....... and here's why: bought a certified pre-owned 525 with about 70k on the clock. Engine didn't use a drop of oil. Figured that since it was a BMW and the Germans are serious about engineering, just trust the OLM. Well I did and I'm sorry that I did because over time, it got to the point that I was adding a quart about every thousand miles. You would think with that kind of oil consumption, I would be laying enough of a smokescreen to cover an amphibious landing.... but it really didn't smoke. Oil loss wasn't from leaks either as I am a maintenance nut and would fix any as they were found.
I don't know if the oil consumption was accelerated by wear from whatever built up in the oil, but there is no way I'm taking that chance again. FWIW, I finally had enough of the 525 at about 185k.
As they say, your mileage may vary
I don't know if the oil consumption was accelerated by wear from whatever built up in the oil, but there is no way I'm taking that chance again. FWIW, I finally had enough of the 525 at about 185k.
As they say, your mileage may vary
which year model was that?
just curious. I helped a guy replace the vanos module on his M3 and that was a fun weekend. well no not really but interesting. That engine has it's own catch can - or rather PCV trap. I hear more and more companies are moving to this.
11-02-2017, 04:46 PM
#70
On BMW's it's called a CCV. They get clogged up over time and as they do, oil consumption increases. Once it's plugged up, a quart every 500-1000 miles it typical. Replace the CCV and it typically goes back to a quart every 5000-10000 miles.