4js8wh

Does the PA truck have CA emissions on the sticker?

T_R

We have that here too. It sucks. Excise tax rate on a new truck is .024 rate here. I'll be paying $800 in excise tax plus registration. That's on top of the $2000 in sales tax.

alping45

iTrader: (1)

Yes, its required by law that dealers in states bordering a state that requires CA emissions(NY) must have vehicles equipped with CA emissions.

4js8wh

Not exactly, but close ie Nevada isn't a CARB state. I didn't know PA was a CARB state, though.

Somewhat moot since I think all states go CARB for 2016 with some exceptions.

https://www.ngvamerica.org/governmen...state-matters/

Wannafbody

I've seen some F150's on the PA lots with California emissions. My F150 has Cali emissions as well.

Scotsskier

yes, because even if you pay sales tax in PA, when you try to register it in NY, they will work out what the sales tax due there is. If it is more than you paid in PA you will need to pay the difference to register it. Of course if it is less, you are hosed...

In a lot (most?) states when the sale is to an out of state buyer, you dont pay sales tax at point of sale, you get a temporary registration and you settle the sales tax when you register in State. Of course some, like CA demand you pay their full sales tax if you drive it off the lot in CA, regardless if it is going out of State. My last Audi came from CA and i had to meet the dealer at the State line and have the transaction notarized so i didn't pay CA tax. I bought a (used) 911 down in the Bay area and had to trailer it back to NV to avoid the tax trap

alping45

iTrader: (1)

Hmm... Well I simply asked the PA dealer how taxes and registration would work across state lines. He told me I would pay taxes to them, and they use a "service" that takes care care of all the registration and paperwork on their end and I would need to do nothing more once all is said and done...

Scotsskier

yeah, but regardless of the "service' they use, they still have to comply with the tax requirements of your home state. I would make sure you have them on the hook for any overage if they are claiming they can do it differently.

alping45

iTrader: (1)

They ended up realizing that they needed to add rebates after taxes to sell to NY, but I got them to split the difference with me and add $200 to my trade. Works for me, picking up the truck this afternoon.

ChicagoJim

Here's how it works in IL:
http://tax.illinois.gov/LegalInforma...0/130-2125.pdf


Basically, if the manufacturer's rebate is payable because the the vehicle is sold, then it is taxable.

For a 2015 screw in IL:
- Ford is offering a $2,000 rebate on the 302A package. But this rebate is applied to the MSRP and thereby lowering the MSRP and the dealer's invoice cost. THerefore, this rebate is not taxable.
- Ford is also offering other rebates like a $1,000 customer cash incentive. This rebate is not paid unless the vehicle is purchased. Regardless of whether the customer or the dealer receives the rebate, the $1,000 must be included in the taxable transaction amount.


Another approach is X-Plan. There is a debate whether X-Plan saves you money -- I'm not going to get into that arguement.

But X-Plan is taxed differently than a rebateable vehicle.

Since X-Plan lowers the effective MSRP inlieu of certain Rebates, then sales tax is on the lower X-Plan price that replaces certain rebates. (E.g., certain Ford rebates for being a member of one club or another are not eligible with X-Plan. On those rebates, you pay tax, but you don't pay tax on the savings X-Plan provides).