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Old 02-13-2019, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BierNut
Why?
Its a fair question, esp. after its been demonstrated that the opportunity cost of the V8 over the 2.7 ecoboost is thousands of dollars. That economic argument is solid.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BierNut
Why?
there are too many determining factors in life that could change your MPG or usage of fuel to base your decision of a truck solely based that reason

say you budget $500 for gas monthly where as the 3.5 could be $550 or 5.0 could be $600 .. if your budgeting reasons are really coming down to $50 - $100 a month there are bigger issues that need addressing .. again these trucks are 1-3 mpg difference .. its not a prius vs a hummer h2
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I have owned a 2012 5.0, then a 2014 3.5 eco and now a 2018 2.7 eco. The 2.7 eco is fun to drive and snappier down low than the 3.5 eco to me. The 2.7 tuned picks up a lot of fat Ford left on the plate. Btw I don't tow anything over 5,000 lbs.. The 5 star graph of all motors tuned are shown on one chart for easy reference.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
there are too many determining factors in life that could change your MPG or usage of fuel to base your decision of a truck solely based that reason

say you budget $500 for gas monthly where as the 3.5 could be $550 or 5.0 could be $600 .. if your budgeting reasons are really coming down to $50 - $100 a month there are bigger issues that need addressing .. again these trucks are 1-3 mpg difference .. its not a prius vs a hummer h2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

I know people whose financial ducks are in a row, and its because they make small decisions consistently with an economic mindset. So it does not follow that you can conclude that "there are bigger issues" at play from just the observation that someone cares about $10/month. In fact, its actually sometimes the opposite. Some people I know do not have big financial issues at play precisely because they care about $10/month.
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Old 02-13-2019, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kehyler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

I know people whose financial ducks are in a row, and its because they make small decisions consistently with an economic mindset. So it does not follow that you can conclude that "there are bigger issues" at play from just the observation that someone cares about $10/month. In fact, its actually sometimes the opposite. Some people I know do not have big financial issues at play precisely because they care about $10/month.
you missed the keyword in my post.. "SOLELY"

as i said.. factors change.. life changes .. if you're worried spending an extra $50 when factors could change.. you have bigger issues
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
you missed the keyword in my post.. "SOLELY"
Nah, I didn't. We'll have to agree to disagree on this issue.
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Let me try this again...

Originally Posted by doug97gxe
what i do however is call people out
Why? What purpose does this serve here?

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you can't budget on gas .. gas prices go up and down .. people take trips unexpected ..
Engine choice has no effect on fluctuating gas prices and unexpected trips, those will happen regardless of your engine choice. However, choosing an engine that uses less fuel will obviously result in less money spent on fuel. Counter to the point you were trying to make, choosing a more fuel-efficient engine would put you in a better financial position in the event of an unexpected trip.

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someone said they bought a 2.7 because they wanted one.. it was the best answer i heard.. no excuse.. no bs reason.. just straight up.. thats why i bought it
I take from this that in your opinion the only acceptable reasons someone would purchase a 2.7 are 1) someone just wants it for no particular reason 2)they could not afford a bigger engine and any suggestion otherwise is a lie that you must call them out on?

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i have no problem with any engine anyone wants to buy ..
It sounds to me like you do...
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Originally Posted by kehyler
Nah, I didn't. We'll have to agree to disagree on this issue.
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Originally Posted by BierNut
Let me try this again...



Why? What purpose does this serve here?



Engine choice has no effect on fluctuating gas prices and unexpected trips, those will happen regardless of your engine choice. However, choosing an engine that uses less fuel will obviously result in less money spent on fuel. Counter to the point you were trying to make, choosing a more fuel-efficient engine would put you in a better financial position in the event of an unexpected trip.



I take from this that in your opinion the only acceptable reasons someone would purchase a 2.7 are 1) someone just wants it for no particular reason 2)they could not afford a bigger engine and any suggestion otherwise is a lie that you must call them out on?



It sounds to me like you do...
i'm too old to do the multiple line break down .. i used to do that 10 years ago.. so i'm just going to end this with.. you're right.. you win
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
nobody buys a v8 for fuel economy .. nobody buys a truck for fuel economy either
Perhaps in absolute terms, but not in relative ones, at least in my case. I went to the 2018 2.7 from the '11 5.0 for its right sizing given my towing needs, coupled with everyday best of breed economy. That was a major factor in keeping me from seriously considering a Ram where the only real choice was to go with the Hemi and 4-5MPG penalty, per fuelly, over the 2.7.
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