Cold Air Intake for the 5.0 - Please Enlighten Me
#31
Senior Member
trading out the air filter is a big benefit. Those paper filters work ok but new synthetic fiber filters and even oil/gauze filters flow so much better.
granted if you're trading your paper filters often - then yes it's about the same but you have to trade them very frequently.
on the tubes - has so much more to do with the original design as to if it makes a difference. On my DD new tube made quite a bit of difference but it's also a good bit louder and whistles. so tradeoff.
On the ecoboost f150's - the stock system looks pretty good for the setup. Ford did alot when the changed how the air gets to the box.
granted if you're trading your paper filters often - then yes it's about the same but you have to trade them very frequently.
on the tubes - has so much more to do with the original design as to if it makes a difference. On my DD new tube made quite a bit of difference but it's also a good bit louder and whistles. so tradeoff.
On the ecoboost f150's - the stock system looks pretty good for the setup. Ford did alot when the changed how the air gets to the box.
Noise=turbulence
#32
Senior Member
Waste of time and money is a question of value. If looking from a performance standpoint, you may be right, but I am interested in finding out for myself. Otherwise, the enjoyment I get from discussing and contemplating these things on forums, anticipating the part's arrival in the mail, and tinkering with the installation is worth the price of admission to me. My truck is more than just about towing or getting from a to b. It's a source of enjoyment from which I derive enthusiasm.
As far as risk goes, I get that. It's exactly why I am putting it out here on the forums, asking friends and reading up on what I can find, so that I can become informed and make a calculated decision. It does look like the risk, if any, is quite minimal. I'll take the chance to entertain the hopes of some power gain and definitely the continued enjoyment of my truck.
As far as risk goes, I get that. It's exactly why I am putting it out here on the forums, asking friends and reading up on what I can find, so that I can become informed and make a calculated decision. It does look like the risk, if any, is quite minimal. I'll take the chance to entertain the hopes of some power gain and definitely the continued enjoyment of my truck.
I get it that some are just not interested in performance, and I understand that it's a pickup.
But why not just leave folks alone that enjoy the hobby.
Instead of just adding to their post count.
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#33
Senior Member
I really enjoy the discussions about performance enhancements, but it's difficult to do on this website because of the same people always being so negative about anything to do with hot rodding. I started to follow a couple of Facebook sites that are all about sharing information about modifications that work, and what doesn't work. These guys post time slips and dyno sheets almost daily. The attitude is toward helping each other obtain the goal set by the member. Not always stating "it's not worth it, or its a waste of time and money."
I get it that some are just not interested in performance, and I understand that it's a pickup.
But why not just leave folks alone that enjoy the hobby.
Instead of just adding to their post count.
I get it that some are just not interested in performance, and I understand that it's a pickup.
But why not just leave folks alone that enjoy the hobby.
Instead of just adding to their post count.
I think the nay-sayers are saying that not only are aftermarket CAIs a waste of money, things like this can also happen:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/rousc...ir-kit-398784/
With CAFE, ALL auto manufacturers design their intake systems to be as efficient as possible!
Last edited by Takeda; 11-03-2017 at 10:44 AM.
#34
Senior Member
#35
Texas A&M Aggie
I think the nay-sayers are saying that not only are aftermarket CAIs a waste of money, things like this can also happen:
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/rousc...ir-kit-398784/
With CAFE, ALL auto manufacturers design their intake systems to be as efficient as possible!
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/rousc...ir-kit-398784/
With CAFE, ALL auto manufacturers design their intake systems to be as efficient as possible!
#36
Senior Member
The big deal is it throwing a CEL!
#37
I’m a sports car and truck enthusiast by heart. In all of the top end cars and trucks I have ever seen that make more power than most of our trucks on this site will, not a single one of them had an aftermarket intake on them. I have put two and two together. Stock intakes will flow more than enough to handle the job and then more, and in my opinion do it cooler and filter better.
In the end it’s your decision and money. As they say, “What you eat doesn’t make anyone else 💩 “.
In the end it’s your decision and money. As they say, “What you eat doesn’t make anyone else 💩 “.
Last edited by Stricnine; 11-04-2017 at 06:36 AM.
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#38
2015 F150 Guy
Waste of time and money is a question of value. If looking from a performance standpoint, you may be right, but I am interested in finding out for myself. Otherwise, the enjoyment I get from discussing and contemplating these things on forums, anticipating the part's arrival in the mail, and tinkering with the installation is worth the price of admission to me. My truck is more than just about towing or getting from a to b. It's a source of enjoyment from which I derive enthusiasm.
I'm all about this stuff too. I don't mean to be negative. I've modded my VWs out over the years and enjoyed the process as you described. I'm just sayin', the CAI is a waste of time ... on the Dubs too. Only kids do 'em because they're cheap and easy. There's millions of used ones for sale. Makes you wonder. I liken them to exhaust tips.
The fact is, the 5.0 is like the VW VR6 motor, there's just no easy bolt-ons. In general, anything you do to it is gonna make it slower. Now, you wanna talk superchargers, you got my ear. I was pretty close to shelling out the 10K. Really, it's not that bad when you consider where you'll be when it's done. I think if it was $6 I would done it already.
I'll even talk exhaust. They're a net performance waste too, but at least you get some beefy sound. It's like what another poster said, "it's your $ and car, do what makes you happy", but that ain't gonna make the CAI actually work.
I did the 2.5" ICON shocks on my ride and LOVE them! BEST mod I did. I'll talk about that all day. The suspension on these trucks just suck. It's a shame.
I also replaced the stock fogs with Baja Designs LEDs. HOLY CRAP! They are unbelievably B R I G H T.
Anyway, Hope it works out for ya,
TomJV
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#39
Senior Member
I agree with everyone that an aftermarket intake will probably make no more power for everyday use. I was really wanting one for sound effects in my 5.0, but its just not worth spending hundereds of dollars for just to make noise and possibly just make it run worse.
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#40
WindowGuy
This issue has been beat to death. Saying a CAI is a waste of money isn't negativity, it's fact. You can go beyond seat of the pants opinion and find websites that post data from dyno testing in controlled conditions that prove an overpriced aftermarket CAI does nothing for performance in real world driving. Most of them aren't even CAI's because they pull air from under the hood. At WOT there may be some gains, but how many people run there trucks wide open enough to justify the cost. I have no problems with mods. I have no problem with people spending money for and installing CAI's. I just wish people would stop trying to convince themselves and others that CAI's do anything more than make their trucks a little louder. Back in the day, the thing to do was turn the air cleaner cover upside down. really made a quadrojet sound a lot better. but didn't make the car go any faster
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