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Old 04-22-2018, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettlil17
they reduce the amount of turbulence of the airflow going into the engine which increases the efficiency of the engine, but that being said, Without a tune to make up the better flow it will have only slight gains. Less hard curves and a solid/ larger pipe are proven to show gains especially with the supported mods, but I’m sure these other “mechanics” on here already know that.
Ok I can swallow that turbulence on a NA motor but once you put a turbo and all the piping from there your turbulent airflow idea is out the window.
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Ok I can swallow that turbulence on a NA motor but once you put a turbo and all the piping from there your turbulent airflow idea is out the window.
Well the turbulent airflow idea is not mine, these are facts. You can look them up. It comes from the same concept as porting and polishing the runners on heads, port matching and polishing intakes, even porting throttle body spacers, and old school carb spacers. But you are correct about turbos. All 5.0’s are n/a from the factory unless you have a factory built Roush/Shelby or any other dealers that add on turbos or superchargers that are backed by the factory warranty. mine is a regular n/a 5.0. Forced induction is a different ballpark.

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Originally Posted by UNBROKEN
I’m not going to spoon feed you what you can find for yourself but the JLT and PMas both show good gains on the dyno and track compared to stock.
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I don’t understand how your comment is answering the post? What’s your opinion on brands? Or oem is what you prefer? Don’t be like a woman. Speak what’s on your mind. I don’t like reading between the lines.
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Originally Posted by Brettlil17


please explain how lasted EFI systems work....

Also since you can only selectively read, I asked for opinions on brands of CAI not how EFI works. I have no idea how you got that out of my post. I can type it slower and be more descriptive or maybe I find a link online that will read it aloud for you, since you don’t understand my post. Let me know if I can I help you!!! 😉
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There has to be something aftermarket cai’s do. Whether it’s positive/negative is debatable.
I say this because I have put the AEM “cai” on my old 2.7 and now my 5.0, and both times my MPG’s improved. Same routes, same driving habits, but increased MPGs.
also, they change the sound quite a bit (also debatable to be good/bad) so there has to be something changing right? Even if it’s 5hp, that’s 5 more than the stock truck next to you
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they reduce the amount of turbulence of the airflow going into the engine which increases the efficiency of the engine, but that being said, Without a tune to make up the better flow it will have only slight gains. Less hard curves and a solid/ larger pipe are proven to show gains especially with the supported mods, but I’m sure these other “mechanics” on here already know that.
With the fuel tables in open loop, and closed closed loop, the PCM tries to keep the A/F ratio at 14.7 (stoich). This is the reason going from a dirty air filter to a clean one doesn't improve MPG. Same rational with an aftermarket CAI, increasing the intake diameter doesn't increase airflow, the airflow velocity is decreased. The only advantage you get with an aftermarket CAI is WWR (Wallet Weight Reduction).
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There's no doubt a good CAI can improve... something... but that's only if the existing intake is poorly designed/room for improvement. The current F150 stock CAI is a pretty darn good system especially for stock. Just not much can really be done to improve on it.

In an independent test I'd be willing to bet there's no way you're getting an additional 5Hp.

As far as recommending one.... I guess it would be the one that brags the most.
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Originally Posted by idrive
There's no doubt a good CAI can improve... something... but that's only if the existing intake is poorly designed/room for improvement. The current F150 stock CAI is a pretty darn good system especially for stock. Just not much can really be done to improve on it.

In an independent test I'd be willing to bet there's no way you're getting an additional 5Hp.

As far as recommending one.... I guess it would be the one that brags the most.
With CAFE requirements, ALL vehicle manufacturers are putting a lot of engineering into their intake systems to make them as efficient as possible!
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Originally Posted by Takeda
With the fuel tables in open loop, and closed closed loop, the PCM tries to keep the A/F ratio at 14.7 (stoich). This is the reason going from a dirty air filter to a clean one doesn't improve MPG. Same rational with an aftermarket CAI, increasing the intake diameter doesn't increase airflow, the airflow velocity is decreased. The only advantage you get with an aftermarket CAI is WWR (Wallet Weight Reduction).
i agree with this. Tuning the pcm changes the parameters for this. Also if you dont have a opinion on a brand, simply say you prefer oem. this is alot easier of a question than what your making it.
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Originally Posted by idrive
There's no doubt a good CAI can improve... something... but that's only if the existing intake is poorly designed/room for improvement. The current F150 stock CAI is a pretty darn good system especially for stock. Just not much can really be done to improve on it.

In an independent test I'd be willing to bet there's no way you're getting an additional 5Hp.

As far as recommending one.... I guess it would be the one that brags the most.
this is all i am looking for..... c'mon people, this is no debate on getting one or not.
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Originally Posted by Brettlil17
i agree with this. Tuning the pcm changes the parameters for this. Also if you dont have a opinion on a brand, simply say you prefer oem. this is alot easier of a question than what your making it.
OEM intake! I was giving technical reasons why there is no advantage to aftermarket CAIs.


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