I has my 2016 F-150 in for the master cylinder recall. The service sheet shows they used quantity 1 of PM20 with the recall work. No problem here.

I also had them do a full brake system flush while it was in there, since I had never had it done in 4-1/2 years. The service record shows they used "BG Super DOT 4" for that instead of the Motorcraft PM20 DOT 4 LV fluid. Should I be concerned about that? I just assumed a Ford dealer always uses the Motorcraft stuff. I have read on here that the "LV" is very important... and I can't find that in any description of the BG product. Should a Ford dealer be using all Motorcraft fluid? Should I be concerned that they mixed these two brands?

BG web site shows BG Super DOT 4 as a "Ultra Dry flushing formula"... looks like they have another type that is "BG Low Viscosity DOT 4" which they did not use...

I would really appreciate some advice on this.

 

I would ask them to prove it meets the Ford Specification WSS-M6C65-A2.

 

I have been trying to find info on the BG Super DOT 4, but their web site has absolutely NO product specs at all. I find NOTHING on the web about it's certifications... or spec sheet. Not even a picture of the product label. And my manual clearly says "Motorcraft DOT 4 Low Viscosity (LV) WSS-M6C65-A2" brake fluid. I would not expect to have to confirm with a Ford dealer whether they will be using a compliant brake fluid. I guess I can't assume anything. I am sure most people do not even read their paperwork when they leave.

 

I checked their website as well. I would suspect that if the company spent the money for testing to meet the Ford specification, they would proudly display that on their website. I would demand that the dealership either show paperwork to prove it meets the specification, or have them change out the fluid for one that does.

Then I would never go back to the dealership again for work.

 

LOL, here we go. As you can see, they charged Ford for 3 units of PM20, DOT 4 LV.. Had it done on the 10th.

Does that mean that I got more brake fluid than you did? Did they throw in a brake flush?

Another mystery of life, LOL.

 

I was told in another thread that if the bench bleed does not work and there is air in system, they do the full bleed at wheels to get any introduced air out... so, may be yours had that happen and you got a free flush with the right fluid. For me, I had to pay extra for the wrong stuff... I can buy a pint of PM-20 for $6 retail. I am sure the dealer gets it cheaper.. so even if they needed 6 pints, that is probably same price or cheaper than the $32.75 they charged me for this BG Super DOT 4. I just don't understand WHY they would put a non-compliant brake fluid in my vehicle unless it was tech mistake.

I also made the appointment three days in advance for this common recall... and they did not have the master cylinder on the day I came in... had to keep my truck another day. They should have either tagged one for me when I made the appointment or ordered one to have it that day.

I guess now I am also wondering if they did the "ABS bleed" which I have read about and requires some scan tool controls.... my service record says "Brake fluid flush: Brake fluid flush" and "Performed complete brake system fluid flush | replenished with new fluid". I guess I have no way of knowing if they did the ABS,,,

 

BG produces a lot of the snake oil that dealerships recommend... considering how hard some of them push it, I would not be at all surprised to find that there are kickbacks, prizes, something for people who sell a lot of it.

I'd go back and make them perform a proper flush, under my supervision, using the proper Motorcraft DOT 4 LV fluid. Brakes aren't something I want to mess around with, and Ford specified that LV fluid for a reason.

 

I would be leery of this dealer. I dropped mine off at 9 AM, and they called me at 4 PM to pick it up.

And the fluid they put in mine is almost clear. If you don't trust your dealer, you might bleed a little fluid from the right rear wheel. If it is not new and clean, then you have a problem.

Good luck.

 

You can guess & speculate here, but it solves nothing. Only they (your dealer service) know what they did, and why they did it.

You should probably go back to the servicing dealer, and present all these questions directly to them. If you're not satisfied with the answers, time to find a new service provider.

 

Thanks, all! I am going to call BG first thing Monday morning and find out if it is WSS-M6C65-A2 compliant. If not, I will go to dealer and tell them to redo it with Motorcraft DOT 4 LV. If they put a non-compliant brake fluid in there, they have no ground to stand on.

My only concern is, how would I know if they really change it... And how do they know how long to flush each wheel since the current fluid is new and clear...