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Old 06-16-2016, 09:09 AM
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Default This article is why I hate unrealistic government MPG rebs

NOTE: Title should read "regs" not "rebs"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...after-overhaul

Ford is scrambling because about 40 percent of its new aluminum-body F-150s don’t comply with the 2016 mandates, according to Duleep. The four-wheel-drive, 3.5-liter SuperCab –- a high-volume variation -- falls 1 mile per gallon short and emits 15 grams of CO2 per mile more than allowed, he said.
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“Not meeting the standards is not really an option, especially on your most profitable product,’’ said Gopal Duleep, president of H-D Systems, a Washington research company. “On fuel economy, the regulators allow you to pay a fine if you fall short. But on greenhouse gas, they don’t. You either meet the standard or they shut you down.’’
I am not against trying to up MPG and lower emissions, but the government can't just set targets with no basis in realism. Just doesn't make sense!
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Wonder what Ford's response will be.
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It doesn't sound like Ford needs a response
"Since most two-wheel-drive models with smaller engines do comply, the F-150 program as a whole meets the targets."
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So that's Ford's response, then
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So Ford currently has the best mileage rating of any truck company (GMC: 18/24, Dodge: 17/25, Ford: 18/25, not to mention Toyota and Nissan who are well below the other 3), but because they have a higher truck/car sales ratio than the other companies it's bringing their "corporate average fuel economy" to less than the required 35.5 mpg this year? Am I understanding that correctly?

Basically the government is trying to punish Ford for investing billions into having the most fuel efficient truck out there (according to sticker value, which is debateable on the accuracy), and consequently selling too many trucks.
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Originally Posted by peterwinkle
Basically the government is trying to punish Ford for investing billions into having the most fuel efficient truck out there (according to sticker value, which is debateable on the accuracy), and consequently selling too many trucks.
Correct. It's a fleet average. And Ford gets punished because only the 5.0 is E85/Flex Fuel rated.

Each manufacturer gets to take a percentage of E85 capable vehicles and average them against their fleet number. The benefit is E85 is it's only 15% gasoline. So if your Flex Fuel truck goes 15 miles on 1 gallon of E85, it only used 0.15 gallons of gasoline to go 15 miles. Therefore you would go 100 miles before you consumed 1 gallon of gasoline. Fuel Economy rating for this vehicle against your fleet average = 100 MPG. The more flex fuel capable vehicles you sell, the more you get to use this BS math.

Either C&D or R&T did a big fleet average article a few years ago. It's amazing what BS our Gov't creates.
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Another misleading article that the chevy boys can try to blow up in our faces.
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Just think if the auto companies spent money to defeat reps able force this Unconstitutional requirement on auto makers and slice the ***** off the EPA.
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Originally Posted by Speedfreak400
Just think if the auto companies spent money to defeat reps able force this Unconstitutional requirement on auto makers and slice the ***** off the EPA.
Yeah! Let's remove all environmental standards and flood the atmosphere with pollution! **** the agency that tells companies to give you better fuel economy and cleaner emissions! Murica!
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Originally Posted by NC_F150
Correct. It's a fleet average. And Ford gets punished because only the 5.0 is E85/Flex Fuel rated.
NA 3.5 is Flex Fuel rated too.


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