Adaptive Cruise Malfunctions - Scary
03-02-2016, 12:22 PM
#611
Yeah. I have gotten the Blind spot sensor blocked warning on the dash a couple of times. Where I live I have not seen snow this year. The last time was in rain though. The time before that was a sunny day.
Recycledoug if you have seen of my posts my dealership is about like nipples on a boar hog, useless. I have video footage of the ACC incidents, Infrared pictures and videos of the cooled/heated seat and steering wheel problems and the dealership here doesn't care. There is no other way to put it.
I have video footage of the tech slandering my name, the service advisor on the camera talking to a tech saying oh yeah he has sent me videos before. I have video footage of the service advisor talking to the head tech (the frito eater) and the head tech saying he knows where those streets are that have made my ACC act up and that he will go test drive the ACC there, well my dash cam video shows me him following trucks on the highway or driving on two lane roads where there is no chance of the ACC acting up. They only keep checking the truck for error codes which it won't have because it thinks its doing the right thing. Instead of checking the components or alignment etc...Its the same old song and dance. They look at it and say its fine or can't reproduce my complaint....
Does the Subaru know that it won't work and shut the eyesight system off?
These F150s have cameras and radar all over. I wonder if they even considered having the systems linked for cross-reference. Use the radars, camera, GPS, steering wheel turn, lane keeping system and maybe G sensors that feed into a system to better determine situational awareness for the truck. Not sure if its possible, or if it would cost too much with all these systems on board already why not use them.
Sorry for a bit of a rant. My truck is back with the dealership for the wrinkly passenger seat, 5-4 hard downshift is back after the first TSB, the recent ACC issues, and my steering wheel doesn't warm very well and then I feel it cycling (gets "warmer" then cools then goes back and forth).
Recycledoug if you have seen of my posts my dealership is about like nipples on a boar hog, useless. I have video footage of the ACC incidents, Infrared pictures and videos of the cooled/heated seat and steering wheel problems and the dealership here doesn't care. There is no other way to put it.
I have video footage of the tech slandering my name, the service advisor on the camera talking to a tech saying oh yeah he has sent me videos before. I have video footage of the service advisor talking to the head tech (the frito eater) and the head tech saying he knows where those streets are that have made my ACC act up and that he will go test drive the ACC there, well my dash cam video shows me him following trucks on the highway or driving on two lane roads where there is no chance of the ACC acting up. They only keep checking the truck for error codes which it won't have because it thinks its doing the right thing. Instead of checking the components or alignment etc...Its the same old song and dance. They look at it and say its fine or can't reproduce my complaint....
Does the Subaru know that it won't work and shut the eyesight system off?
These F150s have cameras and radar all over. I wonder if they even considered having the systems linked for cross-reference. Use the radars, camera, GPS, steering wheel turn, lane keeping system and maybe G sensors that feed into a system to better determine situational awareness for the truck. Not sure if its possible, or if it would cost too much with all these systems on board already why not use them.
Sorry for a bit of a rant. My truck is back with the dealership for the wrinkly passenger seat, 5-4 hard downshift is back after the first TSB, the recent ACC issues, and my steering wheel doesn't warm very well and then I feel it cycling (gets "warmer" then cools then goes back and forth).
03-03-2016, 01:31 PM
#612
BLIS works off a pair of radar units at the rear corners of the truck. They are behind plastic panels, and damp days can create a moisture barrier between the unit and the panel which shuts the unit down and triggers the fault. I have had it on a few Fords, and it was quite common. It really is a handy feature to have in a car, but I dont have a need for it in the truck, the mirrors can see quite well.
Also do not rely on ACC or CA in blowing snow, it will fail you when you need it most, been there, done that. While I wasn't using the ACC at the time, the CA should have kicked off a warning before I saw the car in the middle of the road, but by the time I saw it, it was too late to do anything but hit it.
I have video my wife was taking of the blowing snow to send to her coworkers in Alabama where they shut everything down if a snow flake lands on the grass, and even in the video you never saw the car I hit. Up until I crested a hill, visibility was over a half mile, with occasional white out that lasted all of a second, but never long enough that you could not see down the road. Once I crested this hill though, it was a solid wall of white and I was in it before I could slow down from 45, and I would say no more than 2 seconds later, there was a white car, no lights on, dead in the middle of the road. The Collision Avoidance didn't make a sound, but 4 of 6 airbags sure did. Two seconds later the blazer following me hit me from behind. He had the same reaction I did, Holy S**T where did that come from!!! For miles in either direction, the blowing snow was brief, but this one section was 1/4 mile long and pure white from one end to the other, and a total of 7 vehicles were involved. I was #3, the Blazer was #4, and there were 3 more right after that.
So don't get accustomed to these gadgets giving you ample warning in fog or snow, they can fail you when you need them the most. Trust your Mark 1's, if you can't see far enough ahead, slow down or get off the road.
Also do not rely on ACC or CA in blowing snow, it will fail you when you need it most, been there, done that. While I wasn't using the ACC at the time, the CA should have kicked off a warning before I saw the car in the middle of the road, but by the time I saw it, it was too late to do anything but hit it.
I have video my wife was taking of the blowing snow to send to her coworkers in Alabama where they shut everything down if a snow flake lands on the grass, and even in the video you never saw the car I hit. Up until I crested a hill, visibility was over a half mile, with occasional white out that lasted all of a second, but never long enough that you could not see down the road. Once I crested this hill though, it was a solid wall of white and I was in it before I could slow down from 45, and I would say no more than 2 seconds later, there was a white car, no lights on, dead in the middle of the road. The Collision Avoidance didn't make a sound, but 4 of 6 airbags sure did. Two seconds later the blazer following me hit me from behind. He had the same reaction I did, Holy S**T where did that come from!!! For miles in either direction, the blowing snow was brief, but this one section was 1/4 mile long and pure white from one end to the other, and a total of 7 vehicles were involved. I was #3, the Blazer was #4, and there were 3 more right after that. So don't get accustomed to these gadgets giving you ample warning in fog or snow, they can fail you when you need them the most. Trust your Mark 1's, if you can't see far enough ahead, slow down or get off the road.
03-04-2016, 10:25 PM
#613
I pulled off my front cover, and this is what I found. The sensor is mounted on 3 ball studs, 1 on the left and 2 on the right side. The sensor mounts, and where the ball studs are, are all mounted on the same plane, but 1 stud is shorter than the other. The left 1, and the lower right 1 are the same length, however the upper right 1 is shorter.
Additionally when I took mine apart this upper right stud was not screwed in all the way. probably out a 1/4 inch. I thought it was installed incorrectly, but if you screw it in all the way it is very difficult to snap in the radar module, so I am not sure how this is "supposed to be installed. If the factory wanted to align the radar module, this is a poorly eng way to do it. They could use a similar system to how headlights are done. I thought possibly that the wrong ball stud was installed, but this top right 1 is a different thread diameter than the other 2, so it must be shorter for a reason, however I dont know if it was back out for alignment reasons, or ???
Additionally when I took mine apart this upper right stud was not screwed in all the way. probably out a 1/4 inch. I thought it was installed incorrectly, but if you screw it in all the way it is very difficult to snap in the radar module, so I am not sure how this is "supposed to be installed. If the factory wanted to align the radar module, this is a poorly eng way to do it. They could use a similar system to how headlights are done. I thought possibly that the wrong ball stud was installed, but this top right 1 is a different thread diameter than the other 2, so it must be shorter for a reason, however I dont know if it was back out for alignment reasons, or ???
All, I highly recommend you attempt this fix your self. Since I have performed this adjustment, almost 10 months ago, I have over 20k since with no false alarms and I use my ACC daily 20 min each way to work. Previously, I had numerous false alarm, including hard braking at highway speeds, while overtaking large vehicles.
For the naysayers that would be against modifying a safety device, you have nothing to lose, as it is not working correctly as it is.
just my .02c
03-05-2016, 08:23 AM
#614
Senior Member
I had the the update down a couple months back and being that I don't do a lot of travel that I consider cruise control worthy, I hadn't tried it until about a month after. I was taking a trip to Ohio and so when I got on the highway turned on the acc well guess what it didn't work at all so I said no problem use the normal cruise yea well that didn't work either. Damn no cruise that made my 18 hr round trip real long lol. When I got home I went to the dealer and they found that the puck was basically swinging in the breeze which made both cruise controls unfunctionable. They corrected and no problems yet.
03-06-2016, 10:41 AM
#615
Senior Member
Sorry for a bit of a rant. My truck is back with the dealership for the wrinkly passenger seat, 5-4 hard downshift is back after the first TSB, the recent ACC issues, and my steering wheel doesn't warm very well and then I feel it cycling (gets "warmer" then cools then goes back and forth).
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03-07-2016, 08:20 AM
#617
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I'm going to hopefully pickup my 2016 Platinum this weekend my A Plan fell through, but through work I can get the X-Plan and I just went up to the Car show this weekend to do a test drive and I think I'm supposed to get an additional discount 
I'm really excited. (enough of that).. but .. it will have the Adaptive Cruise Control. I also have a 2013 Explorer Sport with ACC and have never had a problem with it. I skimmed some of the earlier pages and it said something about the sensor in the trucks being up in the windshield? that's surprising, in the Explorer it's down in the bumper area, I know this because I wanted to get a Bull Bar for it and couldn't because it would block the sensor. I'm really looking forward to being back into a truck again, too bad they weren't doing test drives at the car show. Although the Explorer Platinum that I drove was really sweet!
I'm really excited. (enough of that).. but .. it will have the Adaptive Cruise Control. I also have a 2013 Explorer Sport with ACC and have never had a problem with it. I skimmed some of the earlier pages and it said something about the sensor in the trucks being up in the windshield? that's surprising, in the Explorer it's down in the bumper area, I know this because I wanted to get a Bull Bar for it and couldn't because it would block the sensor. I'm really looking forward to being back into a truck again, too bad they weren't doing test drives at the car show. Although the Explorer Platinum that I drove was really sweet!
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03-07-2016, 11:48 AM
#618
Senior Member
I'm going to hopefully pickup my 2016 Platinum this weekend my A Plan fell through, but through work I can get the X-Plan and I just went up to the Car show this weekend to do a test drive and I think I'm supposed to get an additional discount I'm really excited. (enough of that).. but .. it will have the Adaptive Cruise Control. I also have a 2013 Explorer Sport with ACC and have never had a problem with it. I skimmed some of the earlier pages and it said something about the sensor in the trucks being up in the windshield? that's surprising, in the Explorer it's down in the bumper area, I know this because I wanted to get a Bull Bar for it and couldn't because it would block the sensor. I'm really looking forward to being back into a truck again, too bad they weren't doing test drives at the car show. Although the Explorer Platinum that I drove was really sweet!
I'm really excited. (enough of that).. but .. it will have the Adaptive Cruise Control. I also have a 2013 Explorer Sport with ACC and have never had a problem with it. I skimmed some of the earlier pages and it said something about the sensor in the trucks being up in the windshield? that's surprising, in the Explorer it's down in the bumper area, I know this because I wanted to get a Bull Bar for it and couldn't because it would block the sensor. I'm really looking forward to being back into a truck again, too bad they weren't doing test drives at the car show. Although the Explorer Platinum that I drove was really sweet!
03-08-2016, 10:19 AM
#619
2015 F150 Platinum Black
Thread Starter
Jason, sorry to hear about all the issues that you are having with your truck... I would not be happy either with the way you are being treated. I might add that doing a video is an excellent way of showing the dealer and Ford what is happening... As you well know you can drive for 50 - 100 miles and it never acts up...
I have now driven my F150 for about 2,000 miles on the highway since the ACC module was replaced. Over the 2,000 miles I experienced two minor slowing issues with the ACC... I have concluded that it's "As good as it Gets" ... (The title of an old Jack Nicholson movie)... Really, I am satisfied with its performance at the prsent time...
BTW my heated steering wheel does the same thing... But it's not an issue to me... I don't want an ice cube for a steering wheel when its 5 degrees outside... My SW initially gets warm quite quickly getting rid of the ice cold feel within 30 seconds... After about 5 minutes there is not a real warm feeling to the SW, but it is not cold either... So I have never questioned the degree of heat that the SW has after warming up.... I have a Nissan with a heated wheel as well... It's steering wheel gets quite toasty so to speak... and stays hot longer... But again I am not looking for real warm or hot... Just not cool or cold....
Also, have you called Ford Customer Service... I had an issue with an old F150 years ago... The dealer was against the wall with the issue and was getting nowhere with Ford TS... Within a week, after contacting Ford Customer Service, Ford had a response to my issue and the truck was fixed... Again... No fault of the dealer... FMC figured out what was going on and channeled the information to TS and then to my dealer.... New redesigned parts came in and my truck at that time was fixed....
I have now driven my F150 for about 2,000 miles on the highway since the ACC module was replaced. Over the 2,000 miles I experienced two minor slowing issues with the ACC... I have concluded that it's "As good as it Gets" ... (The title of an old Jack Nicholson movie)... Really, I am satisfied with its performance at the prsent time...
BTW my heated steering wheel does the same thing... But it's not an issue to me... I don't want an ice cube for a steering wheel when its 5 degrees outside... My SW initially gets warm quite quickly getting rid of the ice cold feel within 30 seconds... After about 5 minutes there is not a real warm feeling to the SW, but it is not cold either... So I have never questioned the degree of heat that the SW has after warming up.... I have a Nissan with a heated wheel as well... It's steering wheel gets quite toasty so to speak... and stays hot longer... But again I am not looking for real warm or hot... Just not cool or cold....
Also, have you called Ford Customer Service... I had an issue with an old F150 years ago... The dealer was against the wall with the issue and was getting nowhere with Ford TS... Within a week, after contacting Ford Customer Service, Ford had a response to my issue and the truck was fixed... Again... No fault of the dealer... FMC figured out what was going on and channeled the information to TS and then to my dealer.... New redesigned parts came in and my truck at that time was fixed....
03-08-2016, 01:55 PM
#620
I want to ask an honest question.. . I'm about to order a new 2016 F-150 Lariat. I wanted, and was heavy to get the ACC option. I'm starting to wonder if it's a bad idea, not only because it sounds flaky, but because I also want an after market winch bumper (Which i'm sure someone will find a solution to eventually)
I really wanted this option - but should I pass?
I really wanted this option - but should I pass?