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Old 04-04-2019, 09:36 AM
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Well thats how I interpret your post. And from what I've seen on this forum, there are plenty of 5.0 owners who do care.
you took a snippet of my post and either took it out of context or had an agenda .. my statement had NOTHING to do with you

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i've seen more ecoboost total engine failures on this forum than 5.0's .. the difference is the 5.0 owners couldn't care less and don't feel the need to post it in every thread
5.0 Owners couldn't care less to post about the ecoboost engine failures, i've seen more ecoboost owners posting that the 5.0 has problems and the 5.0 should be avoided but based on threads on this forum there is more data and evidence that shows more ecoboost failures. If 5.0 Owners cared as much as ecoboost owners to let everyone know why they should not buy a 3.5 and buy a 5.0 they would post the data.. at the end of the day we don't care to be petty about which engine is more reliable
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Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo
The guys with the 5.0 Mustangs appear to be equally unhappy with their engines...2018+ years.
The 2018 5.0 is different from previous years. It took 3 1/2 years for my 3.5 eco to really start giving me problems which were directly related to the timing chain rattle...and those issues continued to return year after year.

This new 5.0 has been out for 1 1/2 year tops? I guess we'll see.
you seem to have a knack for reading what you want to read.. i didn't mention mustangs to say they didn't have problems.. i mentioned it to say if there are so many high powered mustangs and F150's and the engine is so called unreliable why haven't most of these engines with double the power failed in high numbers. Stu i'm really really starting to understand why rattles and small F150 quirks make you hate your truck so much
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you seem to have a knack for reading what you want to read.. i didn't mention mustangs to say they didn't have problems.. i mentioned it to say if there are so many high powered mustangs and F150's and the engine is so called unreliable why haven't most of these engines with double the power failed in high numbers. Stu i'm really really starting to understand why rattles and small F150 quirks make you hate your truck so much
Well I'm not going to apologize for having high standards and expectations. I have a fully equipped 2018 Lariat, they don't come cheap.
In spite of the mis aligned doors, trans shifting and whining sounds, engine knocking, a few other odds and ends, the only thing I've complained about is the engine rattle.
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
you took a snippet of my post and either took it out of context or had an agenda .. my statement had NOTHING to do with you

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5.0 Owners couldn't care less to post about the ecoboost engine failures, i've seen more ecoboost owners posting that the 5.0 has problems and the 5.0 should be avoided but based on threads on this forum there is more data and evidence that shows more ecoboost failures. If 5.0 Owners cared as much as ecoboost owners to let everyone know why they should not buy a 3.5 and buy a 5.0 they would post the data.. at the end of the day we don't care to be petty about which engine is more reliable
To be fair I believe there are many more 2.7 and 3.5 eco's out there then 5.0 so perhaps that has an impact why there might be more ecoboost post issues? I also had a very very small chain noise on my 2017 which I could hear only at start up with the window done. lol. I switched from 5W-30W to 10W-30W and the slight noise disappeared. I know the spec calls for the 5-30 oil but I'm not worried about the difference to be honest. Not saying it's going to solve anyone else's noise issue but so far after several thousand miles it's eliminated my start up rattle noise.
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To be fair I believe there are many more 2.7 and 3.5 eco's out there then 5.0 so perhaps that has an impact why there might be more ecoboost post issues? I also had a very very small chain noise on my 2017 which I could hear only at start up with the window done. lol. I switched from 5W-30W to 10W-30W and the slight noise disappeared. I know the spec calls for the 5-30 oil but I'm not worried about the difference to be honest. Not saying it's going to solve anyone else's noise issue but so far after several thousand miles it's eliminated my start up rattle noise.
definitely more but i was more so saying its not used in arguments as much as the other is even though the evidence is there
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Originally Posted by Stu Cazzo
Well I'm not going to apologize for having high standards and expectations. I have a fully equipped 2018 Lariat, they don't come cheap.
In spite of the mis aligned doors, trans shifting and whining sounds, engine knocking, a few other odds and ends, the only thing I've complained about is the engine rattle.
Stu i just got rid of my 2016 Range Rover Sport.. they don't come cheap either .. on that SUV is what i would have had high standards for and honestly i didn't.. it was very good and apart from the laggy infotaintment system it was fine. However you have to keep in mind that these are 30k trucks are heart. They all start out as 30k trucks and then Ford sells you options and gadgets up to 80k. I'm not saying you should not have standards and not complain about issues but you have to keep in mind you are driving a 30k truck and that's the build quality you have
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
when is oil consumption and rattles deem an engine unreliable?.....
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definitely more but i was more so saying its not used in arguments as much as the other is even though the evidence is there
I honestly believe bashing someone engine choice for their truck is just plain silly. There's no way Ford could survive and still sell the amount of F150's it enjoys if mass engine failures were common imo. Obviously anything mass produced is going to have a certain percentage of failures but the question is what's acceptable? To the person that owns an F150 with engine problems the acceptable failure rate is exactly ZERO. Can't blame an individual who has spent what these trucks cost to accept engine problems with a smile. That however doesn't mean a particular engine model is doomed or even a high percentage will fail over time.

I had a 2012 eco and never had a single issue during the 5 years I owned it. Did lots of heavy towing with zero problems encountered. That however is purely anecdotal information and means virtually nothing on how reliable is the 3.5 Gen I. It simply means my experience was good and nothing more. I simply DEMAND that Ford stands behind what they sell and never attempt to weasel out of problem they know exists. If something is not right then either recall or at least issue TSB's for known issues. What gets me extremely upset is when dealers know of specfic problems yet still attempt to stiff arm or double speak customers presenting legitimate issues.

Ford needs to step the plate when there are legitimate issues and not have their dealers running interference for them!
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Originally Posted by cthusker
To be fair I believe there are many more 2.7 and 3.5 eco's out there then 5.0 so perhaps that has an impact why there might be more ecoboost post issues? I also had a very very small chain noise on my 2017 which I could hear only at start up with the window done. lol. I switched from 5W-30W to 10W-30W and the slight noise disappeared. I know the spec calls for the 5-30 oil but I'm not worried about the difference to be honest. Not saying it's going to solve anyone else's noise issue but so far after several thousand miles it's eliminated my start up rattle noise.
I have the 3.5 Eco Boost in my 2017 over 16,000 miles on it,i do hear a little clatter sometimes when I start it cold but it doesn't do it every day and lasts like 3 seconds!!
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Originally Posted by doug97gxe
when is oil consumption and rattles deem an engine unreliable? i also swore i saw John post his 3.5 had a rattle as well .. FYI my 5.0 doesn't have oil consumption issues and a little off the throttle rattle isn't what i would consider unreliable .. i've seen more ecoboost total engine failures on this forum than 5.0's .. the difference is the 5.0 owners couldn't care less and don't feel the need to post it in every thread
FWIW when John mentioned the rattle in his 3.5 it was in the April Fools joke thread where he said he was getting a new Ranger!!


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