2018 f150 diesel comfirmed
#21
Constantly evolving means creating new part numbers constantly, whats wrong with designing something, perfecting it, then not change it? A lot easier to maintain something when 10 years use the same parts, or scrounging a junk yard for something. R&D brings added cost to you the consumer.
Why don't we all revert to horse and carriage? That worked just fine, huh?
#22
Agreed, not saying the small diesel will tow better than the ecoboost. I do believe it'll get much better mileage towing than the eb (or any gas engine). Hence I don't see the appeal unless you tow really often and want to get decent mileage towing. I can't see buying it for fuel mileage only, if it's priced like the ecodiesel. Seems like you'd be better off with the 2.7 there. Mileage is not quite as good probably, but the upfront cost is a lot less.
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ns_redneck (01-09-2017)
#23
Would 30 mpg be a big enough gap?
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#26
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“If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”
This has been a debate since the beginning of time for humans-and progress has always won.
#28
I think it's a good reply to Ram eco-diesel, my only concern is how much it will cost, here in Canada eco ram is between 4-6k more costly than a hemi depending which version u take. So I hope it will be cheaper
#29
Blunt
Diesel good if:
-You tow or haul heavy almost daily
-You drive very long distances weekly (2+ hour trips)
-You plan to keep it for a very long (10+ years) time (In order for the extra costs to pay off)
- ^ OR You know you'll be racking up hundreds of thousands of hard miles within a few years.
-You run a fleet
Bad if:
-It's your daily driver
-You're going to use it to run to the store often and make short trips
-You live in very cold climate (ages to warm up, doesn't like to start)
-You don't want your hands smelling like diesel for the day when you fill up
-You care about paying a ton more to get the diesel engine
-You care about paying A LOT more for maintenance and oil changes/filters
-You care about paying extra for DEF
If you fall under both of those categories or don't plan to keep it long enough for the extra costs to pay off, get a 250 or 350. I think too many people want the diesel just because they think it's all advantages.
-You tow or haul heavy almost daily
-You drive very long distances weekly (2+ hour trips)
-You plan to keep it for a very long (10+ years) time (In order for the extra costs to pay off)
- ^ OR You know you'll be racking up hundreds of thousands of hard miles within a few years.
-You run a fleet
Bad if:
-It's your daily driver
-You're going to use it to run to the store often and make short trips
-You live in very cold climate (ages to warm up, doesn't like to start)
-You don't want your hands smelling like diesel for the day when you fill up
-You care about paying a ton more to get the diesel engine
-You care about paying A LOT more for maintenance and oil changes/filters
-You care about paying extra for DEF
If you fall under both of those categories or don't plan to keep it long enough for the extra costs to pay off, get a 250 or 350. I think too many people want the diesel just because they think it's all advantages.
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#30
Diesel good if:
-You tow or haul heavy almost daily
-You drive very long distances weekly (2+ hour trips)
-You plan to keep it for a very long (10+ years) time (In order for the extra costs to pay off)
- ^ OR You know you'll be racking up hundreds of thousands of hard miles within a few years.
-You run a fleet
Bad if:
-It's your daily driver
-You're going to use it to run to the store often and make short trips
-You live in very cold climate (ages to warm up, doesn't like to start)
-You don't want your hands smelling like diesel for the day when you fill up
-You care about paying a ton more to get the diesel engine
-You care about paying A LOT more for maintenance and oil changes/filters
-You care about paying extra for DEF
If you fall under both of those categories or don't plan to keep it long enough for the extra costs to pay off, get a 250 or 350. I think too many people want the diesel just because they think it's all advantages.
-You tow or haul heavy almost daily
-You drive very long distances weekly (2+ hour trips)
-You plan to keep it for a very long (10+ years) time (In order for the extra costs to pay off)
- ^ OR You know you'll be racking up hundreds of thousands of hard miles within a few years.
-You run a fleet
Bad if:
-It's your daily driver
-You're going to use it to run to the store often and make short trips
-You live in very cold climate (ages to warm up, doesn't like to start)
-You don't want your hands smelling like diesel for the day when you fill up
-You care about paying a ton more to get the diesel engine
-You care about paying A LOT more for maintenance and oil changes/filters
-You care about paying extra for DEF
If you fall under both of those categories or don't plan to keep it long enough for the extra costs to pay off, get a 250 or 350. I think too many people want the diesel just because they think it's all advantages.