bleda2002

The 5.0 is on borrowed time, all V8's are as CAFE keeps pushing. Will it be gone for 2018? Probably not but I also wouldnt be surprised if it goes away in '18 either as they push more EB's with gen2.

The diesel will most definitely not be a base engine, it will be a premium engine in its own stack as diesels attract different buyers from gas. If the diesel is successful i expect they will follow the path of euro's and have a low end diesel and a high output diesel, especially if they are partnering with JLR which already has a regular and HO diesel.

thebreba

I heard there was going to be a TT option on the V8 5.0 in 2018 as well however that might only be for mustangs?

thebreba

EDIT: on the other hand. I'd have to see when the time comes around how much more the Diesel option would be. Sounds cool but I really have my eyes on that 2.7 TT pushing 325HP. and still cranking out 24+mpg. I was watching videos of running higher boost/tune and it still running beautifully at 400hp... And let's face it. It's fords brand new engine and will be around for quite some time still.

I'm assuming a lot of people are going to lease and wait to see how this diesel engine does. At least that's going to be my approach. by the end of a 2 year lease this new Diesel lineup should be out.

MUFFMAN

I'll stick with the 3.5 Eco or a 5.0. The diesel may work for some who drive a ton of miles. In my Construction Co.we used to run all diesels, running about 50K on each of them. Switched over to gas in 2009 on the fleet and costs in general are a fair bit lower . I know a few people who purchased the Ram Eco diesels, and all but one has sold theirs, trading in on GM's and Fords

Humvee256

As much as I love a diesel engine, the added cost just isn't worth it the mileage savings. Plus, diesel is roughly $0.50 a gallon more expensive. Once you add in oil change price increases, filters, DEF fluid, etc, you lose any potential savings when it comes to mpgs. If I were to spend money on a diesel, it would be an F250 6.7L. Cost-wise, I'm sure they will be relatively comparable. I always loved a diesel engine because of the added torque, but after getting a 2.7L twin-turbo, it will satisfy that need at a reduced cost over the diesel.

todd92

No Thanks

Rexey

If the ecoboost engines didn't exist I would consider the diesel. Tq down low is good. But with big dollar maintenance and fuel on the diesel... I'll take the cheap alternative. Ecoboost. Low rpm tq, cheap maintenance good mpg. Unless the diesel gets 35 mpg I don't know why most people would get it. Longevity would be the only reason I see. But that's going to be fat coin, for 1 benefit.

GenoBluzGtr

My thoughts after owning a diesel and extensively researching to talk myself out of buying another... I actually really like my former diesel vehicle... but things have changed with diesels a lot lately due to new regulations, emissions standards, etc.... So I started out looking specifically for another diesel and my research has convinced me that, for my needs, it's not practical at all.

if the diesel doesn't get significantly better MPG, it's a losing proposition for the owner... keep in mind, DEF will add an average of about 15 - 20 cents to every gallon of fuel (just a rule of thumb based on other LT Diesels and how often that $8-10 per gallon stuff is needed); also higher preventive maintenance costs... DPF, oil changes/filters, etc; and the smaller, but still contributing factor of the generally higher cost of diesel fuel. If you're buying strictly for the mpg, you should do your homework.

Secondly, the fact that a diesel engine will last FAR longer than a gasoline engine is not necessarily true of todays smaller, computer-oriented complex diesels. Sure the block is more likely to be made of iron, etc... but so many things on a diesel today (expensive things) will fail just as quickly as those on a gasoline engine. I also think that gasoline engine technology has come a LONG way in the past 20 years, so those engines are giving more dependability and longevity while the smaller, higher-tech diesels are not really living up to the lore of "buy a diesel, drive it for half-a-million-miles".

All considered, the price upcharge of a diesel is generally in the $5K range. How long would it take to pay for that, on top of higher fuel / DEF costs, higher maintenance costs, etc...

Now, if you're buying because you tow a large load frequently, and that's the primary use of the truck, then it's a different story, but surmise that towing is, for the most part, an infrequent and ancillary part of why most of us buy trucks.

Just my opinion.

WTF150

When you're running and maintaining a fleet of, say, 50 trucks, you're going to want to keep it as simple as possible. Adding twin turbos into the picture does not scream simplicity lol.

The 5.0 is not going anywhere anytime soon. It still makes up a large portion of f150 sales. Something like 25-30%. Ford would not do that because they would lose all those sales to GM.

Jus Cruisin

My previous Ram was a 2500 4X4 Limited (3 gallons of Rotella plus filter and labor). The Ecodiesel can't tow a golf cart. I doubt a F150 diesel will be able to pull anything, either.