2018 5.0 buyback approved
 

Hey guys. So ford approved my buy back today for 2018 f150 xlt 5.0

The tranny was replaced at 400 miles. I complained enough due to the super loud wine/grinding noises and they actually replaced it. about a month later on cruise control ~80mph my tranny downshifted randomly. thought it was weird stepped on the gas and it downshiffted to 8th and started bucking. Looked in the rear view and all i saw was smoke. The thing was overheating which caused the bad shifts. so long story short they had it for a month couldnt root caused and today they called me to approve the buy back.

Now what do i buy?

The Rams look good but I swore to my self to never buy another Dodge again so I would not buy one.

Do i buy a 3.5 :D lol

the 3..5 i have for a rental seems to run better like they had more R&D. and it doesnt have the god awful wine/whistle.

I love my 2018 3.5 EB.

You will love the 3.5EB

Whatever you end up with here's hoping it treats you right. :thumbsup:

You got a bad truck/10 speed trans. and ford is making it right. If you want a 5.0L then get another one. I would test drive it for a while to make sure you like it. I love mine and it's smooth as butter.
Good luck with your choice.

I'd look hard at a hemi ram. The interiors are super nice, the Hemi is a runner and I really like the 4 corner air suspension. Not to mention you can probably get one cheaper.

Not saying Id for sure buy one if in your position, but Id at least go for a test drive.

Honestly i probably would if i didnt get such a great deal with ford due to the X plan.

Often you can do better negotiating than X plan, if you care to haggle some.

is x plan the employee one? Because i couldnt get anything close to that price.

X plan is a terrible discount. You can negotiate A plan pricing with the right dealer. All I can recommend to you is to test drive the competitions trucks and check out their pricing as well. My 2017 F150 was one of the worst vehicles I've owned so I thought about replacing it with an 18 model, but that would have been dumb to replace my truck with basically the same truck.

So I rented a 2019 Silverado, not on purpose, but because I needed a truck and my F150 was in the shop again. I knew right away I didn't even want to look at another GM truck and in fact I couldn't wait to give it back. I also went to my local Ram dealer and they gave me a truck to drive for the weekend. All I can say is I was blown away by the new Ram. The competition isn't even close. In the end I realized how poorly my $60k F150 was built and ended up with a new Ram Limited. It's the first truck I've owned outside of Ford and now I can see I was drinking the Ford kool-aid for too long.

So my sticker was 50k after the discounts and i paid 41.5k - still that bad of deal?

That's how one worked for me many years ago.

That depends on the incentives that were available at the time. Considering your truck was 50k I assume you have a XLT which has the biggest incentives of all the models usually anywhere around $5k-$12k off depending on time of year it was purchased. With no incentives, yes $8500 off is good. X plan did not get you $8500 off by itself and A plan won't get you that much off by itself either. My guess is X plan got you an extra $2000 off which is easy to negotiate and I wouldn't doubt that it was actually less than $2000. The problem with those plans are if you use them there is no more negotiation, the discount is the discount. The good is the dealer can't rape you on the doc fees.

You could have paid $30K for it and someone would tell you that you paid too much, they paid $25K

I also love how guys troll this forum after buying another brand. Cool but I don't care. Enjoy your __________ .

Trying to stir the pot here obviously makes a guy feel manly.

I wouldn't hesitate to purchase another 5.0, typically after buyback, and negotiations regarding your cost of mileage ect- you can be sitting pretty nice

I would advise strongly against a dodge- a good friend of mine is on his second lemon truck, first a 17, and now the 18- hopefully their 19 is better.

You can usually get a better deal if you combine x-plan with factory incentives. Dealer incentives are the only ones you lose with a-plan or x-plan. So, it really depends on which incentives are available. A reputable dealer will run the numbers for you both ways. I have purchased both ways to get the best prices.

This is what i did when i was purchasing. Old man works at the dealership. Xplan and factory incentives > dealer incentives + factory

Anyway just been looking around and really for 40-45 i cant find/build anything id want. ford still wins . ram is definatley nice but 1 the rebel interior is ugly as hell. the laramine built to what i want is still $$$$ compared to what i get with xplan xlt and tasteful mods. Its honestly between which motor because the 10r80 almost seems to pair better with the eco boosts.

A-plan is for employees and X-plan is for friends/family and certain companies that do business with Ford. I would say you got a pretty good deal previously paying around $41k.

When Ford get is right the 10R80 with the 5.0 is very sweet.
I guess some have had issues, but our's is very nice.

Agreed. I think the "new" 5.0 ...this with the 10r80 is a sweet setup. i agree and with 3.55 it was a great blend. I just couldnt take the whistle/whine of low speed shiifts. It was not even enjoyable to drive with window down. sounded like loud brakes on a new tranny . :/ would be hard to gamble that twice.

i must miss my twin turbo car because i love the sound

Am I missing where there were issues with the engine? You had a transmission issue, the 3.5 uses the same transmission. The transmission tuning might be better for the 3.5 because it's been in the 3.5 trucks for a year longer.

Between your subject line and this post, I suspect you intended to rile people up. Nothing wrong with the 5.0 (nothing wrong with the 3.5EB either).

What did Ford say about the whine/whistle at low speed shifts? I currently have the same issue for my 5.0/10r80, and it's driving me crazy as well. Definitely not enjoyable to drive. Other than the noise, I really haven't had any issues... Assuming they will not offer me a buyback just for the noise?I can't accept the noise as being normal...

Just guessing but you're the only one who seems to have become riled up so I would say you're in the minority here with your assumption.

Thats a good question. I would think its what i paid ?

My complaint is i have had linex put in, window tint, not to mention 700 bucks to register.

Honestly no, not intended to get people going. Having good conversations with everyone.

Im just saying id figured the tune/ pumps they use in the 10r80 would be different for the eco 6 cylinders vs the 8. this is just speculation but im honestly just trying to have good conversations.

Honestly no, not intended to get people going. Having good conversations with everyone.

Im just saying id figured the tune/ pumps they use in the 10r80 would be different for the eco 6 cylinders vs the 8. this is just speculation but im honestly just trying to have good conversations.

its the internet everyone takes everything different.. i wouldn't worry about it

Nothing, and i kept complaining. They eventually replaced it. to be honest the new one sounded the same, maybe a smidge quieter but not really i think. Then this replaced one randomly overheated driving down the highway at 70 mph.

Like i said the 5.0 with 1or80 is great performance wise. i just think either its a pump or something is super loud which is unfortunate :/

so agreed i think theres 2 issues, the throttle body is definitely one part. because sitting in neutral blipping the throttle u can get a small wine but not nearly what u get when shifting gears at slow speeds

Having the same issue as you, I probably would go with the 3.5 (even though I'd prefer a V8). I just couldn't take the risk on another 5.0 making the same noise. If I didn't get the Z plan discount through Ford, I'd probably be looking at getting a Dodge/Chevy...

I have heard about the TB whistle as well (haven't noticed it on my truck), but the low speed gear shift sound is a seperate issue. It's an obnoxious squeal that happens right before/during the gear change..

Yep, You got a bad one. Sorry, but it happens and it sucks!! I would get exactly what you want on your next F150. Shop around, they are the cheapest they have been. The only problem is the pickens are starting to get slim as the '19s are coming out.

Yep, I would avoid a Dodge at all costs. Never heard a medium to long term dodge owner around here that had anything positive to say. Chevy / GM 's are ok, but F150 was so far advanced.

In my case, the whine/whistle from the transmission at parking lot speed did not creep in until about 4-5K miles.

On a 3.5 or 5.0? I ordered mine on my 5.0 and it was almost there from the first drive. wasnt happy about that

But it's not a "Dodge" it's a "Ram"!

Pft! A badge cannot change the fact that it's still a Dodge underneath.

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We had a brand new 2018 Chevy Silverado delivered this week at work. Yesterday I got in it and the "Service Tire Monitor System" message was displayed and the warning light was on, it has 53 miles on it. Point is they all have flaws, they're complicated machinery.

Personally I find Fords hold up better in the long term than Chrysler or GM products. For example at work we have trucks and cars from all three U.S. makes. The GM products turn into rattle traps and the interior plastic parts start breaking when they get old. Chrysler products hold up better but have more electrical problems and controls feel worn. The climate control knobs for instance have no detents for the selection when they get old. They work but you can't feel when the are in position. The Fords do better here. Not as many rattles and the controls keep the solid feel they have when new. The shifter still has the firm clunk, clunk sound and feel when you select a gear. The HVAC controls still click when you turn the knobs. The interior plastics hold up and fades less. The powertrains in all of them are about the same no real differences in reliability. Almost all of the Hemis have a ticking noise but it doesn't seem to effect reliability and they still run strong.

The oldest vehicle in the fleet is a 2001 Ford Excursion with the V10. It has 310,000 miles on it but it runs and shifts smooth and the interior still looks nice and feels solid. It doesn't go on jobs as much as it used to but this used to be our go to work trucks. Back when it was purchased new crew cab trucks weren't as common and the Excursion was the only thing that could haul a work crew of 4-6 men, plus their gear and tow at the same time. We also had a 2001 Excursion with the 7.3 PS but it was totaled in a wreck about 3 years ago. The crew cab trucks do the job now