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Old 07-12-2016, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer15
well I agree with what your saying, but even at 70, its nice to have the power lower in the rpm to accelerate without going WOT. The main problem is that people think that flooring it is bad, and that not flooring it is better in every way. So accelerating with the pedal at 75% with an ecoboost and shifting at 4k rpm is better than accelerating at 100% and shifting at 6500k rpm. In the real world though, not how it works. These are modern, DOHC motors designed to turn RPM. Not 1980s Small Blocks that grenade at the thought of seeing 6k rpm. 5.0 mustangs run all the way up to 8400 for some of those crazy guys, and most run to 7400-7600.
it's not bad. Just annoying. Watch some of the videos climbing mountains in Colorado. Of course my opinion.
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the next time your in the highway look at your rpm gauge. It's not at 3850. And if it is shift up a couple times.
Last I checked, my truck has 6 gears. I have never needed to cruise at 3,850 RPM. I tow several times a year, and the 5.0 does it effortlessly. My truck doesn't shift out of third in WOT until 105. Cruising 90MPH in 6th it is at only 2200 RPM with the 3.55 gears. If I ever need higher RPM to build torque it's only one or two gear lockouts away. And it would still get great MPG...........
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rexey
why do 5.0 guys always get but hurt??
Not saying it's bad.. Just fatiguing. I've done it,it works. But if I have the choice I'm no longer interested in towing with the engine screaming. And yes 4K rpm is screaming. If it had to tow at 7k I don't know who would own one.
Not Butt hurt at all. Just two different approaches. NA engines like the 5.0 use RPM do do work, while boosted engines like the 3.5 EB use boost. Just two different approaches to accomplish the same thing. 4,000 isn't screaming in a 5.0 it's where the sweet spot starts. My truck shifts at almost 7,000 RPM under full throttle. I have no problem using RPM's, my engine loves to rev. I'm sure you have no problem getting into boost either. Without boost the 3.5 would be pretty weak.
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Last I checked, my truck has 6 gears. I have never needed to cruise at 3,850 RPM. I tow several times a year, and the 5.0 does it effortlessly. My truck doesn't shift out of third in WOT until 105. Cruising 90MPH in 6th it is at only 2200 RPM with the 3.55 gears. If I ever need higher RPM to build torque it's only one or two gear lockouts away. And it would still get great MPG...........
you have exactly proved my point. And since your state is the king of flat the 2 engines are likely very alike.
Mine is not. And I don't want to tow everywhere at 4500 rpm just to get over the next hill over and over again.
High rpm, low rpm, high rpm, low rpm, see how that gets annoying? Once again my preference.
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Not Butt hurt at all. Just two different approaches. NA engines like the 5.0 use RPM do do work, while boosted engines like the 3.5 EB use boost. Just two different approaches to accomplish the same thing. 4,000 isn't screaming in a 5.0 it's where the sweet spot starts. My truck shifts at almost 7,000 RPM under full throttle. I have no problem using RPM's, my engine loves to rev. I'm sure you have no problem getting into boost either. Without boost the 3.5 would be pretty weak.
all correct. If I'm going to spend an hour at a time behind the wheel an hour is no biggie. But driving to go see mom 9 hours away. I want and need my truck limo quiet. And luckily only ford offers a solution to my towing needs.
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Originally Posted by Rexey
you have exactly proved my point. And since your state is the king of flat the 2 engines are likely very alike.
Mine is not. And I don't want to tow everywhere at 4500 rpm just to get over the next hill over and over again.
High rpm, low rpm, high rpm, low rpm, see how that gets annoying? Once again my preference.
And that is your preference. You chose the best truck for you. It is tiring for you for your engines to be at 4000k "screaming" up hills. So you got an ecoboost to replace rpms with boost. Nothing wrong with that, the ecoboost is a great engine, I would gladly put one in my truck.

Some of us don't think getting up in the RPMs in our V8s is tiring. I love hammering down the throttle and hearing the V8 sing. But that is my preference, and the 5.0 is a great engine too.

Like someone said earlier, you like boost, some like RPMs. All these engines will get the same job done just fine.
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And that is your preference. You chose the best truck for you. It is tiring for you for your engines to be at 4000k "screaming" up hills. So you got an ecoboost to replace rpms with boost. Nothing wrong with that, the ecoboost is a great engine, I would gladly put one in my truck. Some of us don't think getting up in the RPMs in our V8s is tiring. I love hammering down the throttle and hearing the V8 sing. But that is my preference, and the 5.0 is a great engine too. Like someone said earlier, you like boost, some like RPMs. All these engines will get the same job done just fine.
do I like high revving v8s. Yup I'm an American. Just don't want to be fatigued after getting where I just dragged my camper to or boat. I think most of the difference we have is I'm comparing all day towing to your short haul or all flat ground haul. I don't think we would disagree in the smallest amount if you drove the route I'm discussing just once. Am I bashing the v8? Not even a little. Just doesn't fit the mission I have.
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfer15
anyone concerned about possible problems with the double fuel system approach? I'm not sure about this either.
Nah, the port/direct injection combo is to fix some of the unique issues that direct injection engines brought up, such as valve fouling due to oil buildup in the intake.

Other manufacturers like Toyota are starting to use this as well.
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Originally Posted by Rexey
you have exactly proved my point. And since your state is the king of flat the 2 engines are likely very alike.
Mine is not. And I don't want to tow everywhere at 4500 rpm just to get over the next hill over and over again.
High rpm, low rpm, high rpm, low rpm, see how that gets annoying? Once again my preference.
Except that it's rare for downshifts to occur at all. Even then, RPM increases by 200-300. If that is an issue for you, you are one picky person. I don't think I'd let something so petty annoy me. My truck tows trailers well through the mountains too. If I was towing in the mountains daily, I would probably have bought a Powerstroke instead even though I've had enough of them and really would not want another. I made the right choice for me, I didn't choose based on what others think.
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