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2016 vs 2017 Ford F-150 10-Speed 0-60 MPH Mashup Towing Review: How Fast is the Gen2

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Old 09-02-2016, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by oakasrtheshiz
they're putting it in the camaro ZL1.

See post #13, #17, #18
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Kind of looks like traction control was turned off on the 6 speed truck during the hill climb test, the 10 speed didn't seem to spin at all.

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but after seeing a 0-60 time that is so close I'm skeptical about the 10 speed truck being quicker.
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I don't think Ford's angle here was to just make a faster truck.

Though it is likely a bit quicker, the biggest gains should be in overall daily drivability. I'm betting it will feel more refined, dialed in, and seamless, whether pulling a trailer, or cruising empty.

They just made a great truck even better, IMO.
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Originally Posted by Chris70
But if you watch close the 16 was in sport mode the 17 was NOT. Sport mode will shift at a higher rpm. BIG mistake on the testers part. I would not make any rash judgments from this one test. We will know for sure the performane differences soon enough. I'm looking forward to more testing and reviews on the 17 eco/10 speed
Yeah, I agree. TFL has had many questionable 0-60 tests in their videos for all manufacturers. Their videos are very entertaining and informative, but their method isn't very scientific. Considering their 0-60 for the 2016 is considerably higher than what the magazines have tested, I'd just wait until the magazines get the opportunity to properly test with a bit more firm, repeatable method.

Truthfully I'm figuring low to mid 5's with that sort of torque.

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Originally Posted by Chris70
The port injectors should cure any issues with intake valve carbon build up.

The addition of port injectors was a wise move on Fords part.
I do find it a little disappointing. Part of the appeal of DI is very precise fuel delivery. When you add port injection back in you lose that benefit, as far as I know.

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I do find it a little disappointing. Part of the appeal of DI is very precise fuel delivery. When you add port injection back in you lose that benefit, as far as I know.
The port injectors likely won't run all the time, just in certain duty cycles.
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I do find it a little disappointing. Part of the appeal of DI is very precise fuel delivery. When you add port injection back in you lose that benefit, as far as I know.
There is actually certain RPM's where direct injection works best, and certain RPM's where port injection works best Direct injection isn't the fix all solution that it's typically marketted as.

Doing both gives you the best of both worlds.
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Originally Posted by Chris70
The port injectors should cure any issues with intake valve carbon build up.

The addition of port injectors was a wise move on Fords part.
EcoBoost engines have never had an issue with intake valve coking, so I'm sure that was not the reason Ford added port injection.
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EcoBoost engines have never had an issue with intake valve coking, so I'm sure that was not the reason Ford added port injection.
Thats a whole different subject thats debatable, probably better left in other threads . If we start that discussion here this thread will be A mess.
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Idle and low rpm emissions are usually easier to achieve with port injection because the fuel and air have a chance to mix BEFORE they reach the cylinder and the swirl created as the fuel air mixture passes over the intake valves.
Above idle and lower rpms DI has a big advantage.
Having both is the best of both worlds.
IF ( I won't debate this ) the ecoboost had carbon build up issues the new port injection would cure it.
I have seen quite a few threads complaining about idle quality and low rpm misfires along with needing Reduced plug gap. I'd bet money that issue will be gone on the new motor with port injection.


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