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Originally Posted by FortyOZs
(Post 4267253)
If I can hold out for a '16 I'm waiting for Sync 3 and Lithium Gray paint.
Wish I could hold out for the 8 speed tranny. Does anyone know if that's a Ford produced unit or outsourced? If it's the 8 speed ZF found in everything else these days, that transmission is a dream. I have one in my twin turbo X5 and I love it. Best feature of the car, just about. The current transmission and the next one are joint ventures between GM and Ford. At least as far as design and calibration. I believe they each manufacture their own units per specs. -Jeff |
Do we have a good idea when that new transmission is coming? I'd consider upgrading to 8!
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I thought the new transmission was going to be a 10-spd, not 8?
Originally Posted by vinnievis
(Post 4267269)
I am waiting because:
... 2. To see if the 2.7L gets into the 502A (or higher) ... Edit - that, or maybe the new Raptor. :devil2: |
Originally Posted by Dalingrin
(Post 4268538)
Age of the model year has a greater influence than mileage on the price. Two cars with the same mileage, one a 2012 and the other a 2013. The 2013 is almost certainly worth more. That said, in my opinion its not a big enough difference to warrant worrying about it.
If the vehicles have the same miles but differ by 8 or 10 or more years, then maybe age plays a bigger part in value, but certainly not just 1 model year. :thumbsup: |
I haven't decided to buy or wait yet, really depends on job status, I suppose as I've got some things in the works right now.
From my experience, when model years are crossing on sales lots, you usually pay a few thousand more for the newer model but will eventually get that back when you sell it. It's essentially a wash, the only real reason to wait is if there are features you know you want that aren't available on the 2015. ..or, if there's a feature you want that isn't working correctly like cooled seats, it makes sense to wait to see if the problem is fixed with the 2016's. |
8 or 10 spd. tranny? Doesn't Ram use a 8 spd now? they still get poor MPG, and are constantly shifting in any up or down grade in the road...
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Originally Posted by ArcticGabe
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That doesn't seem right to me. The mileage on a vehicle is an indication of how much of the usable life has been consumed. To me, any 2 used vehicles that have the same mileage but differ by only 1 model year have the exact same amount of usable life left, and therefore, are worth the exact same amount.
If the vehicles have the same miles but differ by 8 or 10 or more years, then maybe age plays a bigger part in value, but certainly not just 1 model year. :thumbsup: You're assuming price is based purely on reason :) Price is in part set by how much people are willing to pay and people perceive a newer model year as "better" particularly if its the same mileage as something older. I'm not going by a gut feeling. I'm basing this on bluebook values. |
Order guide says 6 speed for 16 still so maybe 17 will have upgraded power numbers and a new tranny
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Originally Posted by NumberCruncher
(Post 4268480)
I need some help with this one. I am a CPA and understand very well what depreciation is but nobody has been able to tell my why the way I look at it is incorrect and I am hoping you can.
If you could buy either a new 2015 or 2016 today, tomorrow the 2015 will be worth less as it is technically a year old. That is why we call it depreciation. However, you can likely save several grand on a 2015 that you can't save on a 2016. That really helps to even things out. But here is the part that everyone seems to forget. If you go to sell either your 2016 or 2015 in a year's time and the truck has 15,000 miles on it, the 2016 will have the correct number of miles for a one year old vehicle but the 2015 will be much lower than average and every "blue book" I have ever looked at says to add money to the value of your sale/trade as it has lower than average miles for being, in this case, two years old. So you can save a few grand on initial purchase price AND get an add back for low miles at the time you sell or trade it in. To me this at least makes buying the "one year old truck even though it is brand new" at least an identical deal if not a better one. Is my reasoning flawed here? NC Some people trade every 2-3 years and that trade value is essentially a down payment. Spending a couple thousand more for a year newer truck may be a wash when traded in vs saving those couple thousand at the time of purchase for a year older truck with incentives. In one case you save up front and in the other case you might save at the tail end when trading. Trade value is determined by several factors. |
Compared to the 6 speed in my '12 Ram, the transmission in the 2015 F150 is leaps and bounds better
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