CrazyOhio

Wife's subaru will go places and climb hills in the snow that my 150s and superdutys won't go half way up.

B49young

Where does it snow 12 months a year? Ken put it best, put some weight in the bed of the truck. Seriously, is this a brain buster for good gas mileage??

Ftruck150

All those 1100 lbs aren't over the rear axle though.

You can still load all that weight in the bed if you want.

For instance, a 10th gen f150 weighs 4800-5000 lbs,, are they not good in the snow because they aren't as heavy as the 11th or 12th gens?

This thread itself seems like another case of ".. back in my day.."

Some people really do hate change.
5000 pounds is no longer 'heavy enough' to be 'good' in the snow.

There are a lot of sub 4k lb cars out there that handle much better than an f150 could ever dream of, in snow.

techrep

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My wife's 4 runner with the diff locked out perform's my FX4 all day long in the snow..

11screw50

Pretty sure it will be fine. I honestly cannot say that my F150 is any better in snow than my nissan frontier was and that weighed quite a bit less.

Muggydude

I know the weight is not all going to be taken out from the bed, but I'd think at least 100-200 lbs, if not more.

Maybe just a 4th horse stall matt haha. Or some extra sand bags.

My f150 is a beast in the snow with the added weight, I still think the new one will be great, just maybe not quite as much traction as an older truck with the same amount of weight added, and the same tires.

More weight in the rear lowers cg, and loads the suspension so that bumps in the road don't transfer as much weight off of the rear tires= more traction.

Wisdom

I wonder what people on this thread consider "driving in the snow" because where I'm from, there's a out 4 feet of snow and the roads don't get plowed. Clearance and weight are a big factor in real snow. I'd imagine the guys driving around town in their little suvs have a easy time.

Ftruck150

Curious as to how you drive through 4ft of un-plowed snow in any vehicle?

I'm not going to start looking up ground clearance numbers and all that, but I'm pretty sure there are lots of "little suvs" (stereotypical 'truck guy' attitude that people hate - bigger= better.) have plenty of ground clearance and I'm sure many have equal to that of our f150s.

Regardless, a car with an advanced AWD system and decent tires will outperform a 4wd pickup truck on snow covered roads all day long, the same as a "little suv" with an advanced AWD system, technology is a great thing.

Seriously, what advantage do you think you have in your f150, driving in snow, over any SUV on the road? Besides being nose heavy :P

I can understand the ground clearance thing, in deep snow, when pertaining to low cars, but that doesn't apply to SUVs.

nihilus

I imagine it has more to do with weight/area, otherwise pressure more so than weight itself. Big trucks that do well on ice are heavy, but they also have skinny tires. An easy solution to offset the weight loss is to use a 245 series tire instead of a 265 or 275 series tire.

I'm not sure if english is wisdom's 1st language so there may have been miscommunication there.

driver444

I get concerned over the weight reduction vs the truck's capability too. I get the fuel standards and the technology, and I'm not against progress, but I can think of a couple times I used my truck as a truck, and I do have doubts about the 2015, (although I'm planning on buying one)


2 weeks ago, my father-in-law's F-550 dump truck had a fuel gel issue, and the only option was for me to pull him home with my truck. We were in the middle of nowhere. He had about a ton of stone in the back, and the truck itself weighs 10,000lbs. I had to pull him up a couple steep hills, in 4LOW. The power wasn't really an issue, but I did get the tires spinning getting him rolling a couple times. I can't help but wonder how it would've been if my truck weighed 700lbs less.


I know the towing and payload on the new truck is better, but there is a BIG difference between towing a trailer and pulling a load. Towing adds tongue weight to the truck. Pulling is just dead weight behind you.


Just some of the things I think about,