2015 F150 Strictly Pics Thread
03-16-2014, 09:06 AM
#421
Senior Member
I'm betting those sales figures also take into account business and government fleet sales.
03-16-2014, 10:37 AM
#422
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2013/02/...-ford-in-2012/ Where did you instructor get these numbers that you 'looked at' ? 99% of these sales claims you read always use the slogan "F-Series". Yes, Ford sells more F150s than Chevy, yes Ford sells more F150s than GMC, but they do not outsell GM in half tons. What you 'looked at' in class was probably Ford's usual claim, which is true, that Ford 'F-Series' outsold all other pickup trucks by X amount. Also, the F-Series as a whole includes not just the 250 and 350 like you said, but the 450, 550, 650 and 750. Hardly a fair comparison to compare the whole F-series to GM 1500-3500.. although both are irrelevant here. Yes, we're talking half tons here, which GM ( Chevy Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500) sells more of. "Every 41 seconds" means nothing, thats silly.. regardless of what it breaks down to in terms of seconds, it's less than GM.
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03-16-2014, 01:33 PM
#423
Senior Member
I don't know why so many scoff at fleet/government sales. For those buyers the case is purely financial, but it's not all about the cheapest to purchase. When it comes down to it, fleet pricing for all makes of trucks end up very close. A small difference in purchase price is less important than long term operating costs such as maintenance and repairs that play a huge factor. The fact that Ford is selected most for these reasons speaks to the reliability of the F-series. It's the consumer that is swayed by "style", brand perception, and purchase price, rather than hard figures.
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03-16-2014, 02:17 PM
#425
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03-16-2014, 03:18 PM
#426
Nice strawman though.
"A lie too"? I don't remember telling anyone they were lying about anything to begin with.
All I said, in response to someone saying Ford 'buried the competition', was that GM actually sells more half tons than Ford, which is a fact.
99% of the time people have F-Series confused with F150, and they quote these outrageous sales figures that include everything from the 150 up to the 750.
Don't make it personal, I don't know why so many guys get so defensive over something as silly as sales numbers -they're just numbers.
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03-16-2014, 03:35 PM
#427
How is it even possible for you to call into question my 'logic' when everything I said was completely objective and numbers based? Nice strawman though. "A lie too"? I don't remember telling anyone they were lying about anything to begin with. All I said, in response to someone saying Ford 'buried the competition', was that GM actually sells more half tons than Ford, which is a fact. 99% of the time people have F-Series confused with F150, and they quote these outrageous sales figures that include everything from the 150 up to the 750. Don't make it personal, I don't know why so many guys get so defensive over something as silly as sales numbers -they're just numbers.
03-16-2014, 03:46 PM
#428
Wow, touchy. All I'm saying is how can a vehicle that is said to be the best selling vehicle of all vehicles sold not sell more than GM/Chevy 1/2 tons? This is just the first I've heard of it. Personally it doesn't affect me and I sure as hell won't loose a minutes sleep over it
I don't care one way or the other, I still love Ford trucks regardless of whether or not GM sells a few more.
The Ford "F-series" is the best selling 'line' of trucks, sometimes worded "best selling truck".
People hear "Ford Fseries" and more often than not, turn that into "ohhh look the F-150 (the most common and most sold of course) sold xxx,xxx trucks last year", not realizing it's 150-750 thats included in the F-series
I've provided sales figures for half ton trucks sales in the U.S.
What Ford is doing is comparing their F-series VS other companies full line of trucks - which it outsells by a large margin.
GM as a company sells more half ton trucks than Ford, or did in 2012 at least. I don't have numbers for last year.
03-16-2014, 03:49 PM
#429
It'd be interesting to see the actual sales figures for half ton trucks in Canada.
I'd have to imagine though, that when looking at these numbers it was presented in the manner of "Ford F-series", which is most common.
Now some people will take this the wrong way, get defensive and say that I'm implying that GM sold more in Canada as well, which is not true.
I'm genuinely curious about how the sales figures break down for trucks (mainly the half tons) up in Canada.
03-16-2014, 03:50 PM
#430
Senior Member
Aside from the fact I use Canadian numbers, in which case they do sell more F150's than 1500 chevs and gms combined, it still stands that GM and Chev may be under the same roof but they are not the same company. Ford in the US still sells more than Chev and GM separated which is the fair way to look at it.
Here in Canada even Ram now outsells the 2 combined.
Here in Canada even Ram now outsells the 2 combined.