2015 F150 contender the 2016 Turbo Diesel TITAN
#11
Op Looks great? Must be on crack that looks pretty bad if this is the all new titan so many styling ques issues. The oversized buckle badges on sides, the busy lettering/logos on back, ford style Platinum plat eon tailgate copy. The grill is something a rapper would wear around his neck, those halogen headlight housing. the wear DLR on front pattern looks like crust from your eyes in teh morning. The interior is a shot at KR style. They didnt show off the dash yet.
I need to know more tech besides engine.
I need to know more tech besides engine.
#12
Senior Member
More links:
http://autoweek.com/article/detroit-...roit-auto-show
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/12/2...icial/#image-1
http://blogs.cars.com/files/nissan-titan-specs-1-1.pdf
Looks like competition for the F150 HD Payload trucks.
http://autoweek.com/article/detroit-...roit-auto-show
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/12/2...icial/#image-1
http://blogs.cars.com/files/nissan-titan-specs-1-1.pdf
Looks like competition for the F150 HD Payload trucks.
#15
I'm a dyed in the wool diesel guy, and I applaud Ram for bringing out the EcoDiesel option. And Nissan for picking up the Cummins engine that was destined to go in Ram pickups until they bailed on the deal after the financial fiasco a few years back.
Even though I have never driven an EcoDiesel yet, (just try to find one on a dealer lot that isn't already sold) I have sat down and tried to pencil it out a number of times, and it just doesn't compute. With the truck costing a great deal more at the time of purchase (no rebates or incentives for the diesel vs gas, they are barely discounting the truck at all, and asking sticker price) and the expensive oil changes ($9.00 per quart for the required oil and a $50 oil filter), and diesel in my area being at least $1.00 per gallon more than gas, there is just no way. Even if you figure the truck may have a higher trade in value when it's time to trade, and a longer service life, it still doesn't compute.
Also, with all the complexity of the emissions crap that has been added to the diesel to keep the environmentalists happy, you can be sure that stuff will start to break right after the warranty has expired.
I read somewhere that Toyota is going to use the same Cummins engine as Nissan. I'm guessing Nissan will sell a few more trucks but I think the Cummins engine will bolster Toyota's truck sales much more than Nissan's.
It is interesting that Ram used a foreign diesel and Nissan used a domestic diesel, and that Nissan's initial production is going to be 100% diesel, where Ram ramped their diesel production up to 20% after they realized they had a hit on their hands.
As far as the looks of the new Nissan truck, I neither like it or hate it. I feel the same way about the new Chevy/GMC trucks as well, and as much as I will probably get stomped into the dirt on this forum the new F-150 is going to have to grow on me as well.
Even though I have never driven an EcoDiesel yet, (just try to find one on a dealer lot that isn't already sold) I have sat down and tried to pencil it out a number of times, and it just doesn't compute. With the truck costing a great deal more at the time of purchase (no rebates or incentives for the diesel vs gas, they are barely discounting the truck at all, and asking sticker price) and the expensive oil changes ($9.00 per quart for the required oil and a $50 oil filter), and diesel in my area being at least $1.00 per gallon more than gas, there is just no way. Even if you figure the truck may have a higher trade in value when it's time to trade, and a longer service life, it still doesn't compute.
Also, with all the complexity of the emissions crap that has been added to the diesel to keep the environmentalists happy, you can be sure that stuff will start to break right after the warranty has expired.
I read somewhere that Toyota is going to use the same Cummins engine as Nissan. I'm guessing Nissan will sell a few more trucks but I think the Cummins engine will bolster Toyota's truck sales much more than Nissan's.
It is interesting that Ram used a foreign diesel and Nissan used a domestic diesel, and that Nissan's initial production is going to be 100% diesel, where Ram ramped their diesel production up to 20% after they realized they had a hit on their hands.
As far as the looks of the new Nissan truck, I neither like it or hate it. I feel the same way about the new Chevy/GMC trucks as well, and as much as I will probably get stomped into the dirt on this forum the new F-150 is going to have to grow on me as well.
#16
#17
Senior Member
A diesel isn't for me but I generally like how it looks and it should be highly competitive in the tow-heavy light truck market. I'm also impressed by a truck manufacturer daring to equip their truck with actual LT tires in all sizes.
#18
According to a wall street journal article less than 10 percent of the new ram trucks have the ecodiesel. Is it really selling that well? I have yet to see one and where I live in a farming community everybody has a pickup.
I was looking forward to the titan as a possible replacement for my super duty, but talking about 12,000 towing and 2,000 payload doesn't impress me at all. With that diesel it's probably going to be quite a bit more expensive and appears it won't be much if any more capable than an f150, especially when the upgraded 3.5 ecoboost and the 10 speed arrive. Looks aren't super important in a work truck, but to me the front end of that truck is just hideous. I suspect the titan could be dead on arrival especially if the price gap from gas to diesel remains. I'm severely dissappointed so far. If I had to guess I'd say this will be nissans last try at building a full size truck. I just don't think it's going to sell worth a crap unless the price is very competitive or will be a lot more capable than they are suggesting.
I was looking forward to the titan as a possible replacement for my super duty, but talking about 12,000 towing and 2,000 payload doesn't impress me at all. With that diesel it's probably going to be quite a bit more expensive and appears it won't be much if any more capable than an f150, especially when the upgraded 3.5 ecoboost and the 10 speed arrive. Looks aren't super important in a work truck, but to me the front end of that truck is just hideous. I suspect the titan could be dead on arrival especially if the price gap from gas to diesel remains. I'm severely dissappointed so far. If I had to guess I'd say this will be nissans last try at building a full size truck. I just don't think it's going to sell worth a crap unless the price is very competitive or will be a lot more capable than they are suggesting.
#19
That is one ugly truck. The front is all shape shifty and I can't stand bubble lights that come off the body.
#20
Senior Member
brakes were a problem and needed to be replaced every 15km. the 4x4 would always go into limp mode if pushed too hard. my old ford pulled that nissan out too many times. the tailgate handle got jammed with dust and dirt every 10k and wouldnt open, and the rear differential locked up on the highway....strong motor though haha