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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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Hey everyone,

I've searched through some other threads and I haven't found a definitive answer for my problem. I've had a high-speed rear vibration for some time now and I just assumed that is was something to do with the drive shaft (u-joints or a dent in it). I finally got around to pulling it out and having it checked and it was in fact out of balance. I had a new yoke welded to it because it was broken, and a whole new sheath put on the outside to correct an out-of-round issue. I also replaced the u-joint even though they didn't appear to be that bad. I though I all this was my problem for sure, however, I still have the same problem.

I have a 95 2WD, long bed, std cab (one-piece drive shaft), 5.8L, E4OD auto and everything is stock. All four ball joints, outer tie rods and radius arm bushings were done little over a year ago (about 10,000 miles ago).

The issue is, right after about 70mph the whole cab starts to shake but dies out after I slow back down. Also around 50-55mph it shakes even worse, especially when maintaining that speed or decelerating without pushing the brakes (while accelerating I don't notice it much). I've checked the tire balance a few times and rotated my tires around to see if the vibration moved at all but nothing changed. I double checked the tires for being out-of-round and they look good to as they are only 3 year old.

In any case, I'm stumped as to what is causing this. Could it be the rear shocks? They look like they haven't been replaced in a while. Or maybe a pivot bushing for the front I-beams? I also though it might be the front wheel bearings as I recently detected a very small amount of play in them. I think the problem is coming from the rear but I guess it could be anywhere as the whole truck shakes up and down!

Sorry for the long post but I will appreciate any help with this. My wife is pregnant and wants me to get rid of my truck for a smaller car because it is to "rough" for her. I want to fix this so I can keep both of them!

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Tony
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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Check your wheel weights. you may have lost a weight and caused a tire to be out of balance.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Our Afro-american friend's refer to rear vibration as,"Junk inda Trunk!" (Supposed to be a good thing)
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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The weld would have to be top dead center w/ no excess lag. When rpm's of something heavy gets into the hundreds & more, tolerances/angles/weight distrubution, become critial. Sometimes if you have a chase vehicle traveling with you, observing at different angles, you can see what's out of whack. It will stand out.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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Ghostman - I've checked the wheel balance a few times as I have easy access to tire machines and wheel balancers. When I returned from a test drive, and it was still shaking, I checked again and the wheels were still in balance. I even went so far as to break the tires down and rotate them on the wheels and re-balance - no change.

ymeski - I had all the work done by a reputable heavy truck machine shop and the welds looked very clean and straight, in fact, I couldn't even tell where it began or ended; just one fluid circle around the new yoke! I haven't explicitly checked like you stated but since doing all of that work to the drive shaft and experiencing absolutely no change in the vibration, I was thinking that it was safe to rule out the drive shaft. I'm not a mechanic though, so I could be wrong!

I'm quite baffled by this but I have learned to deal with it. After all, it is a 15 year old truck! I just don't like that my wife has to endure the discomfort whenever she is in my truck.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by admiller316
Ghostman - I've checked the wheel balance a few times as I have easy access to tire machines and wheel balancers. When I returned from a test drive, and it was still shaking, I checked again and the wheels were still in balance. I even went so far as to break the tires down and rotate them on the wheels and re-balance - no change.

ymeski - I had all the work done by a reputable heavy truck machine shop and the welds looked very clean and straight, in fact, I couldn't even tell where it began or ended; just one fluid circle around the new yoke! I haven't explicitly checked like you stated but since doing all of that work to the drive shaft and experiencing absolutely no change in the vibration, I was thinking that it was safe to rule out the drive shaft. I'm not a mechanic though, so I could be wrong!

I'm quite baffled by this but I have learned to deal with it. After all, it is a 15 year old truck! I just don't like that my wife has to endure the discomfort whenever she is in my truck.

I understand. I bought a new dodge 3500 in 04. it had the same issue. it was in the shop at least 6 times. two different shops. they were replacing everything even the rear end. I am a mechanic also. we could not find it. It ended up being the Front Drive shaft on mine. There are so many things that could be causing it.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Try the chase vehicle thing. A different perspective while the vibration is occurring.
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghostman 04
There are so many things that could be causing it.
Indeed, that's what I'm afraid of! I can start replacing a bunch of parts but I was hoping to narrow it down a little because I don't have a whole lot of excess cash!

Thanks man
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Old Feb 23, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Have a very similar issue with mine. I finally took cover off the rear end and discovered my spider gears and pinion shaft are worn quite a bit. The rear end grease was also way too thin. (like 20wt) I can't get new parts till next week, so I refilled with Lucas gear oil. (140wt) this alone made a huge difference.
Mine looks like someone ran it with two very different size tires on rear or was stuck and spinning one wheel a LONG time.

Just a thought....easy to check.
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:21 AM
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After re reading your post, it sounds like a tierod bushing, but you say they're fairly new. Does a particular road condition set it off? Any lane search? If you had another set of tires & rims you could put on temporarily to rule those out. Not beig there to eperience it, it's even harder to fugure out. It's not an engine rpm/load hamonic balancer type vibration?

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