Best Performance Upgrades
I thought it would be best to leave it alone. Maybe once the fan clutch goes ill think about doing it, but meanwhile I can look into the best fans and the best way to do it and most reliable, maybe two huge e fans, big enough that one could probably keep up but it would be a strain, that way if one should fail on me, the other can get me home. Or if my radiator went out, I could put a racing radiator or something in it and just use regular e fans.
Also I travel a lot in the truck, about 65% of the time the truck does the job of a Honda, 30% of the time it does the job of 3/4 ton, and 5% of the time it does the job of a jeep lol. But most of the time it gets me points to b, sometimes point a to b is 300 miles to Atlanta, but I was actually towing a trailer then. The truck regularly makes an 80 mile trip to auburn, and 30 mile trips to Montgomery. Even Walmart is 15 miles from my house. Even considered this past summer taking it to upstate New York where we have some family, we just didn't go. But I would hate to have troubles 1200 miles from home lol. So reliability is key, but freeing up some power and gaining an mpg or two would be nice, especially since I plan on rehearing it and would loose an mpg or two. I would come out even with a lot more powerful feeling truck. I get the e fans are reliable, I just questioned them in a 351 when they were designed for a 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder car.
I'm not saying switching to e fans won't work well. What I am saying is that it's hard to replicate the cooling power and quality of a factory system, be it e fan or belt driven. You tow 7k in 100 plus heat I'd just as soon have the factory setup. Maybe in our trucks an e fan add on.
Edit. I myself really looked into the e fan swap last fall. I'd read about mpg claims and such. I ran a test in Sept of 12. I pulled the clutch fan off the truck for the entire month. The engine was quieter but my mpg stayed the same. I drive the same route daily for the last 10 years. Trust me I was a little let down, I was hoping to see some mpg gains.
Edit. I myself really looked into the e fan swap last fall. I'd read about mpg claims and such. I ran a test in Sept of 12. I pulled the clutch fan off the truck for the entire month. The engine was quieter but my mpg stayed the same. I drive the same route daily for the last 10 years. Trust me I was a little let down, I was hoping to see some mpg gains.
So how beneficial is it for my truck with a fan clutch that isn't seized up, is it worth 50-100$s, then another $150 or so for an alternator. I would probably need a bigger alternator, with a/c, stereo and sub going ( yes I tow with the radio blasting on the interstate, not so much in town or heavy traffic) and truck lights and trailer lights, it would be a strain on the 18 year old 95 amp alternator lol. Right now it does fine though.
Edit, forgot about the fan controller. Make that investment $54. I'm running the fans, a 200w ham radio, a 65w ham radio, a 300 w stereo amp, a 100 w jvc head unit, a 300w ham radio amp, two 6" 100w off road lights, two 55w rear work lights. With the headlights on bright, the 100w off road lights on, the 55w work lights on, the stereo and amp on I'm sitting at 13.4v. When the fans kick in, the volts drop to 12.5 for a split second and settle back in at 13.2v for the 30 seconds that the fans stay on. Again, that's only at idle or bumper to bumper traffic that they even come on. I'm on a 6 year old battery that I've let die a half dozen times after leaving the lighted rear view mirror turned on for three days and the battery is still kicking. On the earlier post I linked to, I posted all of my voltages at the time. The e-fans don't pull squat. I've tested and tested and posted lots of numbers for you guys to compare to and just can't find a negative in the setup.
Last edited by unit505; Dec 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM.
Gearing done by a shop can be quite expensive, expect 5-600 for parts, and another 800 or so for labor, but it is a very good mod. That 4x4 drives up the price some lol, it has to be done twice. I would save and do that, better than k&n filter and cai and throttle body spacers and chips ect. Most of these do nothing to very little to help performance, out of these a k&n is probably best, unless you have obd2, then maybe a chip. I'm considering one down the road for better power management however. Have you bumped your timing yet?
What was your mpg gain? and what did you get the alternator out of? Can't I just have my alternator rebuilt and upgraded to 130 amp? I just thought about that. I'm not knocking the e fans, just been nervous of them, never know anyone around here that has a truck with e fans and tows a bit.
I have 31's on there right now, I'm unsure of the current ratio (assuming 3.73). What can I do to make sure my MPG doesn't fall through the floor? I'm getting about 14 city, 16-17 highway.
Also, Nick, you mentioned freeing up the exhaust, I chopped out the muffler, but I'm in an emissions controlled part of Colorado, so I need at least one cat (ran really close on NOx emission on my test last year).
Also, Nick, you mentioned freeing up the exhaust, I chopped out the muffler, but I'm in an emissions controlled part of Colorado, so I need at least one cat (ran really close on NOx emission on my test last year).
Im running 4.56 gears with 235" tires (about 29") in the winter (I have larger 33" for the summer). So you know nothing about overkill! Running a larger tire will compensate with running low gearing. The driveshaft is simply turning over 4.56 times for every one full rotation of the tire in my truck. You have to understand that putting in too much gearing like 4.88 or 5.13 then the the engine will turn over more quickly and with a small tire, thus burning more gas, you have to find a happy medium. Obviously it much more fun with low gearing and the tire shredding burnout power at every light
but you'll notice the gas needle move quicker. These 5.0 engines produce next to no low end torque so for 31's I recommend 4.10 gearing but if your plan on moving to 33" and staying there, I recommend 4.56 gears. Heres nifty chart that shows you the cruising speed RPM of your engine with what gearing and tire diameter. Remember Im running 4.56's on 29's!!! thats about 3500 RPM at cruising speed!! any higher and the engine would grenade! lol. The black is the optimal RPM you will want to be at for power and fuel efficiency.

For the exhaust I recommend the magnaflow Y-pipe, eliminates 1 Cat and replaces the other with a high a flow Cat, bung included for o2 sensor. Not sure if this will pass emissions though
Surely will free it up!Magnaflow 93307
What was your mpg gain? and what did you get the alternator out of? Can't I just have my alternator rebuilt and upgraded to 130 amp? I just thought about that. I'm not knocking the e fans, just been nervous of them, never know anyone around here that has a truck with e fans and tows a bit.
Last edited by unit505; Dec 29, 2013 at 01:06 AM.
I have done absolutely nothing to the truck sadly (other than tires and small exhaust mod). I think this is going to be the way to go then. Also, I have no clue where I got 3.73 from, I have no idea what's on there and I recall seeing 3.73 and that's what I wrote lol. So basically what I'm getting is it also might be worth my while, if I'm looking for MPG too, to lift the truck enough to get 33's or 35's under it??
Nick: I actually have looked at that setup exactly, but I figured I can cut our both cats, weld in pipe in place of the front, and buy the high flow cat for the rear as a separate unit for $100 as opposed to $200 for the kit. Yes, that explanation makes sense. So where I am at right now, I have a little more fuel economy as compared to having 4.10 gear ratio, but my power is lower. The increase to 4.10 sacrifices some fuel economy for power?
Brandon and unit505: I haven't ever heard of an e-fan, but from reading what you guys have written, I'm lost as to how is brings you more power and increases the MPG, could you explain that a little?
Thanks to everyone for their input btw, it's appreciated!
Brandon and unit505: I haven't ever heard of an e-fan, but from reading what you guys have written, I'm lost as to how is brings you more power and increases the MPG, could you explain that a little?
Thanks to everyone for their input btw, it's appreciated!
Last edited by BIGREEN; Dec 29, 2013 at 01:08 AM.

