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Old Oct 16, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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Ok so my dilemma is I put 22" rims on my truck. Knowing they would scrub I put a 2" leveling kit under the front springs (hockey puck lift kit) & my camber is way off. When I went to get an alignment and camber kit they said it wasnt possible & I would need to by a 2" drop kit (brackets to drop my "I beams") & restore to factory height which would bring my camber back in and ready for an alignment. Where I'm stuck is.. If I drop it 2" it will scrub. If anyone has any suggestions on bringing my camber back in without scrubbing.. I'd greatly appreciate it. I've thought about body kits but idk how I would lift the front and not the back. At factory height it's way to low in the front.
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 02:35 PM
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The I-beam drop brackets will only lower the TTB relative to the frame. It should not drop the actual frame. Thus rubbing should not be a problem.

I am surprised they couldn't get it aligned. Did they tell you how far out of alignment the camber was? Moog sells adjustable bushings for the 2WD that can go from -4 to 4 degrees camber adjustment. Moog K80109. If it is 4WD you want K80108.
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 05:13 PM
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If you put the i-beam further away from the frame (with hockey pucks, bigger springs etc) at the spring you have to put the pivot point further away too to bring the i beam back into perpective relative to the ground (hence the drop brackets) or you can get the steering knuckle to lean back in at the top at least some with the adjustable upper bushings that BLDTruth mentioned.
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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I don't know much about front end work or the terminology but these are the pictures the camber is worse on the right side but they told me at the alignment shop that they could do it but it wouldn't be right. Not sure what I need to do but I put a lot of money in already and I'm trying to do the smartest thing I can to get it right and not scrub. If my wheel wells get dropped 2" it's gonna scrub.
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 06:26 PM
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You need to find an alignment shop that has someone who knows what they are doing. Lots of places nowadays don't want to bother aligning these trucks because they are difficult to get aligned. You will have to pay more than a typical alignment...probably $150-200 because they will need to take an alignment profile, figure out the camber correction, and then install bushings to correct the camber. If the guy at the shop doesn't know what a bushing alignment is, find another shop.
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Old Oct 17, 2015 | 06:55 PM
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Figure it as a sideways T. When you lift the truck up, the wheel which is the short part of the T stays right where it was. But when you lift the frame the pivot bracket (which is attached to the frame goes up and that makes the other end (the wheel) tilt out at the top.
If you put a 2" drop bracket at the pivot end, everything falls back into place (at least close.
Your bottom ball joint is fixed, but your top one is in an oversize hole with a bushing to align it in the hole. Different size bushings will make the wheel tilt in, out, forward or back to adjust the camber so the tire sits flatter or adjust the caster so the wheels follow the truck better (like the caster wheels on a shopping cart). You want the wheels slightly behind center so they will caster - go back to straight when you let go of the wheel.
The only other part of the alignment is toe - in. You need the front wheels to be slightly "toed in" at the front. That way they're always fighting each other to go in. Scrubs the tires off a bit if you get too much toe in, but the alternative is toed out in which case they're always fighting each other to head for one ditch or the other. Toed in a little is better. That's adjusted with the adjusting sleeves on the tie rods.
When these trucks were still being sold, every alignment shop had a stock of different sized bushings for Ford trucks, but nowadays they don't bother because it's not their main focus.
The adjustable moogs that BLD was telling you about are your best bet - they might be able to adjust enough that you don't need drop brackets.
That's alignment 101 - covers the basics anyway.
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Old Oct 18, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Thank y'all for the help I'll take a look at the bushings and try to find a better place to get the work done. I just don't wanna spend the money if it's not gonna be done the right way and cause me to spend more money.. Thanks for the knowledge Chris! It really helps.
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Adjustable camber bushings are your go to part here. Install yourself, they take like 20 minutes per side after jacking the truck up and taking the wheels off. Or 20 minutes total if you have some air tools, and a lift (hehehe). Buy the Moog +/-4degree bushings, and install those. Then roll it down to the shop for an alignment. If they say they can't do it, or can't do it right, find a new shop. It's just time consuming, but it's not hard at all.

If you look through my threads in my profile on here, I made a how-to on installing the bushings a couple years back
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 09:24 AM
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So these are the ones I want to get for my truck? It is 2wd. Just wanna make sure I'm getting the right ones before taking my truck apart again.
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Old Oct 20, 2015 | 10:07 AM
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^^^Yes
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