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Old May 17, 2025 | 03:41 PM
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Have a 92 150 w/ 302, in the Winter heater never fully heats up and temp gauge is maybe to N or Normal. In Summer over 75degrees running a/c it overheats.
have flushed system and I think have 180 thermostat.
Don’t want to just change parts, without a plan.
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Old May 17, 2025 | 04:56 PM
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IIRC, the stock thermostat temp was 195 degF.

Heat - suggest pulling the heater hoses and push garden hose water through the core to check for any restrictions. Reaching a bit, had an event where I replaced a leaking heater core with a cheapie that just didn't put out the heat. Closer inspection of the core suggested that part of the cheapness was due to about 1/3 of the core was non-functional. Also suggest inspecting the blend door damper that it's fully seating and sealing when at full Warm on the dash dial, doesn't take much outside cold air leak-by this blend door to knock the vent temps in the cab down.

Cool - assuming the stock fan, suggest looking at the fan clutch. I forget the exact test, but something like you shouldn't be able to free-spin the fan more than 1/2-3/4 turn with engine off and cold. Also check for any fan wobble that might indicate bushing / bearing wear with the clutch. Suggest inspecting the air flow path through the condenser and radiator for excessive crud or bug buildups on or in the finned areas of each. I trust the fan shroud is in place - critical to draw good air flow. A restricted radiator core is a possibility, suggest checking through these other easier and lower cost possibilities first.

Lastly, throwing out the water pump as something highly unusual but not unheard of, where the impeller has either worn down or slipping, again suggesting checking through the other stuff before the time, efforts and money expended here.
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Old May 17, 2025 | 09:00 PM
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IIRC, the stock thermostat temp was 195 degF.

Heat - suggest pulling the heater hoses and push garden hose water through the core to check for any restrictions. Reaching a bit, had an event where I replaced a leaking heater core with a cheapie that just didn't put out the heat. Closer inspection of the core suggested that part of the cheapness was due to about 1/3 of the core was non-functional. Also suggest inspecting the blend door damper that it's fully seating and sealing when at full Warm on the dash dial, doesn't take much outside cold air leak-by this blend door to knock the vent temps in the cab down.

Cool - assuming the stock fan, suggest looking at the fan clutch. I forget the exact test, but something like you shouldn't be able to free-spin the fan more than 1/2-3/4 turn with engine off and cold. Also check for any fan wobble that might indicate bushing / bearing wear with the clutch. Suggest inspecting the air flow path through the condenser and radiator for excessive crud or bug buildups on or in the finned areas of each. I trust the fan shroud is in place - critical to draw good air flow. A restricted radiator core is a possibility, suggest checking through these other easier and lower cost possibilities first.

Lastly, throwing out the water pump as something highly unusual but not unheard of, where the impeller has either worn down or slipping, again suggesting checking through the other stuff before the time, efforts and money expended here.

new heater core installed, clutch checked good

I’m leaning toward water pump weak myself as I think its original

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Old May 18, 2025 | 04:36 AM
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I think your radiator may be plugged
Do put a 195 thermostat in it
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Old May 18, 2025 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TTownF150
new heater core installed, clutch checked good

I’m leaning toward water pump weak myself as I think its original
Very doubtful its the water pump.The impeller would have to be eaten away which is extremely rare. For one, don't trust the dash gauge. They are junk and shouldn't be used for diagnostic purposes and just because the needle points way up does not mean the engine is overheating...You have to actually measure the temperature. Unless the coolant actually boils over, the engine is not overheating. You could have a blend door issue when you get no heat during the winter but I would address the overheating issue right now,.
It depends on the driving condition you are doing when it overheats.If the engine overheats in stop and go driving, look for an airflow problem such as clogged fins on the condenser or radiator or the fan clutch. If the engine overheats during highway driving, look for a waterflow issue. Most likely restricted water tubes (calcium) buildup in the radiator.A cheap thermostat should be replaced with the properly rated OEM thermostat.

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Old May 18, 2025 | 06:46 AM
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The getting heat in cold months bothers me less, my 90 is slow to heat up as well. But it does get there, this 92 never seems to in Winter.

The overheating is the main concern, it’s definitely getting hot. The truck has over 300k miles and was my father’s truck he had for about 20 yrs. I have flushed the radiator but I know that doesn’t mean there isn’t still an issue.

In my head it is a flow issue causing both conditions. Just trying to decide if I spend less money and more hours on a water pump or more money and less hours replacing the radiator. Think my path may be best replace hoses, thermostat, and radiator now and see what happens. At least I know it doesn’t hurt to replace those items and may help most.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by TTownF150
The getting heat in cold months bothers me less, my 90 is slow to heat up as well. But it does get there, this 92 never seems to in Winter.

The overheating is the main concern, it’s definitely getting hot. The truck has over 300k miles and was my father’s truck he had for about 20 yrs. I have flushed the radiator but I know that doesn’t mean there isn’t still an issue.

In my head it is a flow issue causing both conditions. Just trying to decide if I spend less money and more hours on a water pump or more money and less hours replacing the radiator. Think my path may be best replace hoses, thermostat, and radiator now and see what happens. At least I know it doesn’t hurt to replace those items and may help most.
I would replace the radiator. Radiators are cheap these days. Water pumps usually leak when they fail. I never actually seen a pump with an impeller issue causing an overheating condition. It does happen on a very poorly maintaied cooling system but I would believe the raditor and heater core would rot out long before a water pump impeller.
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