Unsure of picking a TT after doing research
#11
Senior Member
Regardless of the numbers/ratings, I wouldn't even consider towing 10K (+) behind a 150. In my never humble opinion its an accident just waiting to happen. Also the truck will be underpowered/overworked.
#12
I'm brand new to the world of towing and would gladly accept any info before we purchase our 150.
As it's just the wife and I were looking at a smaller trailer wouldn't say more than 4k pounds unloaded.
If there are certain things to pay attention to in regards to payload pkg, tow pkg etc would love the help.
Would prefer to buy the vehicle best suited to our needs than possibly having to go through the ordeal again later.
#13
Member
Thread Starter
Thanks for all the input guys, so like I was asking in the OP, does anyone have any actual experience towing a setup similar to this with the ecoboost F150. That's what I was specifically looking for.
We actually decided against the first choice and figured the second choice would work better for reasons other than towing. Still it's an 8300 pound dry weight and 9800GVWR. So it'll be a bit more comfortable to tow anyway.
We actually decided against the first choice and figured the second choice would work better for reasons other than towing. Still it's an 8300 pound dry weight and 9800GVWR. So it'll be a bit more comfortable to tow anyway.
Last edited by Will51; 10-07-2016 at 03:38 PM.
#14
Grumpy Old Man
I have all sorts of experience towing overloaded with my EcoBoost 3.5L. Close to your example was when I moved Darling Daughter's 5er from Austin through the hill country to Midland county.
Steer axle: 3300
Drive axle 4,680, rGAWR 3,800 = 880 pounds overloaded over rGAWR
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GVW 7980, GVWR 7,100 = 880 pounds overloaded over GVWR.
Trailer axles 6800 + pin weight 1,360 = trailer GVW 8,160 = a lot less than the combined GAWR of 10k (two 5k axles). So the trailer wasn't overloaded, but the tow vehicle was.
I towed in daylight hours only, because the rear end was squatting and the headlights would have been aiming at the stars. Plenty of power for dragging the trailer through the hill country without overheating anything in the drivetrain.
Another trip was going the other direction, towing a gooseneck equipment trailer that grossed over 21,500 hauling a John Deere 310A loader/backhoe, from Midland county to Blanco in the hill country near Austin.
front axle 3380
rear axle 5080
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GVW 8460
trailer axles 19,040
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GCW 27,500 or almost double the GCWR of 14,000.
But that 3.5L EcoBoost engine and drivetrain is amazing. Again, no problems, but I was on pins and needles the entire 270 miles until I could unload that heavy loader/backhoe. With the empty trailer, I wasn't overloaded so the leg home was a pleasure.
Would I make either one of those trips again? Not unless I was forced to. Towing overloaded is no fun, and towing at almost twice the GCWR is pure misery, even with a great tow vehicle such as the F-150 with 3.5L EcoBoost drivetrain.
Last edited by smokeywren; 10-07-2016 at 11:18 PM.
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#15
Senior Member
With passengers in the trailer while towing... the risks aren't worth it when you're bumping the limits of the truck. Do it right and get a motorhome.
#16
Member
Thread Starter
I have all sorts of experience towing overloaded with my EcoBoost 3.5L. Close to your example was when I moved Darling Daughter's 5er from Austin through the hill country to Midland county.
Steer axle: 3300
Drive axle 4,680, rGAWR 3,800 = 880 pounds overloaded over rGAWR
----------------
GVW 7980, GVWR 7,100 = 880 pounds overloaded over GVWR.
Trailer axles 6800 + pin weight 1,360 = trailer GVW 8,160 = a lot less than the combined GAWR of 10k (two 5k axles). So the trailer wasn't overloaded, but the tow vehicle was.
I towed in daylight hours only, because the rear end was squatting and the headlights would have been aiming at the stars. Plenty of power for dragging the trailer through the hill country without overheating anything in the drivetrain.
Another trip was going the other direction, towing a gooseneck equipment trailer that grossed over 21,500 hauling a John Deere 310A loader/backhoe, from Midland county to Blanco in the hill country near Austin.
front axle 3380
rear axle 5080
-------------
GVW 8460
trailer axles 19,040
-----------
GCW 27,500 or almost double the GCWR of 14,000.
But that 3.5L EcoBoost engine and drivetrain is amazing. Again, no problems, but I was on pins and needles the entire 270 miles until I could unload that heavy loader/backhoe. With the empty trailer, wasn't overloaded so the leg home was a pleasure.
Would I make either one of those trips again? Not unless I was forced to. Towing overloaded is no fun, and towing at almost twice the GCWR is pure misery, even with a great tow vehicle such as the F-150 with 3.5L EcoBoost drivetrain.
Steer axle: 3300
Drive axle 4,680, rGAWR 3,800 = 880 pounds overloaded over rGAWR
----------------
GVW 7980, GVWR 7,100 = 880 pounds overloaded over GVWR.
Trailer axles 6800 + pin weight 1,360 = trailer GVW 8,160 = a lot less than the combined GAWR of 10k (two 5k axles). So the trailer wasn't overloaded, but the tow vehicle was.
I towed in daylight hours only, because the rear end was squatting and the headlights would have been aiming at the stars. Plenty of power for dragging the trailer through the hill country without overheating anything in the drivetrain.
Another trip was going the other direction, towing a gooseneck equipment trailer that grossed over 21,500 hauling a John Deere 310A loader/backhoe, from Midland county to Blanco in the hill country near Austin.
front axle 3380
rear axle 5080
-------------
GVW 8460
trailer axles 19,040
-----------
GCW 27,500 or almost double the GCWR of 14,000.
But that 3.5L EcoBoost engine and drivetrain is amazing. Again, no problems, but I was on pins and needles the entire 270 miles until I could unload that heavy loader/backhoe. With the empty trailer, wasn't overloaded so the leg home was a pleasure.
Would I make either one of those trips again? Not unless I was forced to. Towing overloaded is no fun, and towing at almost twice the GCWR is pure misery, even with a great tow vehicle such as the F-150 with 3.5L EcoBoost drivetrain.
Then again I was driving school buses through waist deep rushing flood waters to evacuate people last month, so I guess this won't be that bad.
The F150 boasts capabilities that are a little unbelievable for a half ton truck, but then again, technology is continually changing, so I was unsure if they really were as capable as they're advertised in peoples real world experiences. I appreciate the input.
#17
As Smokey pointed out, the truck is quite capable of towing it, but you won't like it. As I pointed out, @6300# wet, mine is right on the edge of comfortable. You would be much better off with a 3/4 ton in both stability and economy. The EB will suck fuel towing that much weight, plan on using 7 MPG as your fuel calculator.
Find a truck with the longest bed if you plan to stick to the F150, regardless of payload. The 5.5' bed even with 1900# of payload wont tow a long trailer comfortably. Like she said, 12" is HUGE.
Find a truck with the longest bed if you plan to stick to the F150, regardless of payload. The 5.5' bed even with 1900# of payload wont tow a long trailer comfortably. Like she said, 12" is HUGE.
#18
Senior Member
Thanks for all the input guys, so like I was asking in the OP, does anyone have any actual experience towing a setup similar to this with the ecoboost F150. That's what I was specifically looking for.
We actually decided against the first choice and figured the second choice would work better for reasons other than towing. Still it's an 8300 pound dry weight and 9800GVWR. So it'll be a bit more comfortable to tow anyway.
We actually decided against the first choice and figured the second choice would work better for reasons other than towing. Still it's an 8300 pound dry weight and 9800GVWR. So it'll be a bit more comfortable to tow anyway.
#19
Senior Member
Buy a big camper in Tacoma. My retired neighbor used to drag a 5er to Texas and Arizona and back. He wised up and bought a park model and is happy flying back and forth.