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Old 06-17-2013, 05:49 PM
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NEVER get a recent used super duty. From what I've seen here it is possible to find a good half-ton that hasn't been abused. But a super duty will virtually always be used for work and hauling. None of these companies or fleets let these trucks go until they are almost dead. Rolling back the spedo is also ripe here. Unless its dirt cheap I wouldn't even consider it with the amount of problems a used 6.7 can have from over heating and bad maintenance.
Rolling back the odometer on a pcm/bcm can-bus equipped vehicle? Puff puff pass homie
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Rolling back the odometer on a pcm/bcm can-bus equipped vehicle? Puff puff pass homie
Just drive home backwards!
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Just drive home backwards!
Ferris bueler **** I guess.
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Originally Posted by User-One
NEVER get a recent used super duty. From what I've seen here it is possible to find a good half-ton that hasn't been abused. But a super duty will virtually always be used for work and hauling. None of these companies or fleets let these trucks go until they are almost dead. Rolling back the spedo is also ripe here. Unless its dirt cheap I wouldn't even consider it with the amount of problems a used 6.7 can have from over heating and bad maintenance.
Around here the main concern with a used Superduty is snow plowing. Back & forth, ramming into snow banks, pretty hard on the truck.

One thing to look for is one with all the options, a Lariat with leather and so on. Those usually are not regular work trucks at least.

Another is to get one from an private individual rather than some re-seller who buys the off-lease or rental units. If they have the service records, that's best.

And, yes, I really don't think rolling back the speedo happens much these days.
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Originally Posted by jcain
Rolling back the odometer on a pcm/bcm can-bus equipped vehicle? Puff puff pass homie
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Just drive home backwards!
Originally Posted by jcain
Ferris bueler **** I guess.
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And, yes, I really don't think rolling back the speedo happens much these days.
I'll just post this again:




I work for a company that ships parts to shady European countries. People over there managed to roll back a couple year old mercedes s class. If there's a will there's a way. Nothing is roll back-proof.
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I have the 5.0 crew with the heavy duty payload package
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Originally Posted by User-One

I'll just post this again:

Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjtrrSgABnc

I work for a company that ships parts to shady European countries. People over there managed to roll back a couple year old mercedes s class. If there's a will there's a way. Nothing is roll back-proof.
The truck bcm ,aka in the cluster, carries the vin marriage on can-bus systems. You'd have to have access to ford IDS and a grant code from ford engineering to swap the vin on the new cluster, or core change it with DMV involvement. The truck won't run/start without this procedure. Alas, if someone has the means and care to do this, merely anything is possible. I'd wager less than some have access to all of this for new can-bus trucks. Also, that video is ignorant, lack of oil maintenance can cause all of those "issues", doesn't indicate mileage at all.
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Just for real world experience, I have a 2011 Ecoboost SCREW with Max Tow. I have a fifth wheel similar to what the OP asked about. Dry weight of 7900 and dry pin weight of 1410. With my DW and an 85 lb golden retriever, the loaded weight is 9200 lbs and the loaded pin weight is 1650 lbs. After a year of comfortable towing, I weighed the rig an found that I am 500 lbs over the GAWR. Part of this is offset by SuperSprings and Bilstein 4600 series HD shocks (doesn't change sticker). I have been on the road for two weeks traveling west to NM and north to CO and WY. With all the torque of my EB plus whatever the LMS tow tune and Full-Race exhaust adds, I cannot imaging doing this with any less of a truck or engine. I have experienced strong headwinds and steady altitude increases which put everything to the test. Where I had been getting 10-11 mpg on the east coast, I have gotten as low as 8 out here, but have averaged about 9.5 overall. Were I to get another truck, it would still be the F150 EB, but with HD payload just for piece of mind on the rear axle bearings, but this truck still tows very comfortably. If the trailer were even 1000 lbs heavier, I would go for a Super Duty diesel.
If Ford comes out with an EB F250 with, say a 4.2-4.5 EcoBoost, I would be all over it.

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Thanks for all the advice. called my Ford dealership and am taking in my 2012 f-150 5.0L supercab and trading up to a brand new 2013 f250 6.7 turbo diesel crew cab. Its got more than enough payload and towing capability and i am sure the diesel will be the most efficient and logical way to go. picking it up in 4 days, and a towing i will go!
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Originally Posted by trevchar1971
Thanks for all the advice. called my Ford dealership and am taking in my 2012 f-150 5.0L supercab and trading up to a brand new 2013 f250 6.7 turbo diesel crew cab. Its got more than enough payload and towing capability and i am sure the diesel will be the most efficient and logical way to go. picking it up in 4 days, and a towing i will go!
I am SO envious.

Have fun!


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