How do I know the Tow Capacity?
#11
Official HTT Greeter
I agree, an F150 with Max Tow or HDPP would be OK, probably with 3.5EB and 3.55 or 3.73 gears.
those are options that can be found on the window sticker online.
assuming the online sticker/listing is correct. Mine was not, even through emails with the dealer I couldn't get a consistent answer to the axle ratio or engine option.
#12
I guess the question to the OP. Do you want a 10k capacity so you can safely tow a maximum of a 7,500 lb trailer? If so an F150 is perfect for that.
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
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Ricktwuhk (07-14-2016)
#13
true, but he wants 10k# capacity.
I agree, an F150 with Max Tow or HDPP would be OK, probably with 3.5EB and 3.55 or 3.73 gears.
those are options that can be found on the window sticker online.
assuming the online sticker/listing is correct. Mine was not, even through emails with the dealer I couldn't get a consistent answer to the axle ratio or engine option.
I agree, an F150 with Max Tow or HDPP would be OK, probably with 3.5EB and 3.55 or 3.73 gears.
those are options that can be found on the window sticker online.
assuming the online sticker/listing is correct. Mine was not, even through emails with the dealer I couldn't get a consistent answer to the axle ratio or engine option.
If you have specific questions about options or towing setups, let us know
#14
Official HTT Greeter
I guess the question to the OP. Do you want a 10k capacity so you can safely tow a maximum of a 7,500 lb trailer? If so an F150 is perfect for that.
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
#15
Look for a truck with an 1800# payload sticker on the door, and you will have what you need. Forget rear gearing, and towing capacity, that yellow lawyer tag is what you need to look for. To narrow down your search, look for a extended cab with long bed (154"?), and 3.5 Ecoboost. The 5.0 *might* pull up a couple, but you will find more selections with the 3.5.
Mine has a 1470# payload, and pulls my 7600# GVWR TT just fine, but I can't carry passengers at the same time, or I am over my axle rating. If I had the 6.5' bed, chances are I would be able to carry passengers and pull the trailer.
If you can't find one with enough payload, go up to the next truck, a 3/4 ton. Beware though, just because its 3/4 ton, doesn't mean it will automatically have the payload, so again, check the yellow tag.
Mine has a 1470# payload, and pulls my 7600# GVWR TT just fine, but I can't carry passengers at the same time, or I am over my axle rating. If I had the 6.5' bed, chances are I would be able to carry passengers and pull the trailer.
If you can't find one with enough payload, go up to the next truck, a 3/4 ton. Beware though, just because its 3/4 ton, doesn't mean it will automatically have the payload, so again, check the yellow tag.
#16
Grumpy Old Man
First job to define "10,000 pound towing capacity". I define it as being able to tow a trailer that weighs 10,000 pounds WITHOUT EXCEEDING ANY OF THE WEIGHT RATINGS OF THE TOW VEHICLE".
Ignore the tow rating, which is GCWR minus the shipping weight of the tow vehicle. Instead pay attention to the payload rating, which is the GVWR minus the weight of the empty tow vehicle. You will exceed the GVWR of the tow vehicle long before you get close to the GCWR.
For an F-150, those tow vehicles that can tow that much trailer without being overloaded are very rare and far between. It requires an F-150 with about 2,000 pounds payload capacity. Tongue weight of a 10,000 pound travel trailer with average tongue weight will be about 1,300 pounds. Then add driver, passengers, options, and you use up the available payload capacity real soon now.
If you're thinking about a fifth-wheel RV trailer, forgetaboutit with less than an F-250. Hitch weight will be several hundred pounds more than with a TT. (TT hitch weight is about 13% of gross trailer weight, but smaller 5er hitch weight is about 18% of gross trailer weight.)
So a 10,000-pound TT requires an F-150 with the heavy duty payload package (HDPP), and probably the lighter-weight of a SuperCab instead of a crew cab (SuperCrew). It probably also requires a 2015-up model with the lighter-weight aluminum body. Which increases the cost of a used one beyond your budget. An older F-250 with the gas engine might be within your budget.
#17
Senior Member
I guess the question to the OP. Do you want a 10k capacity so you can safely tow a maximum of a 7,500 lb trailer? If so an F150 is perfect for that.
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
However, if you a 10k towing capacity in order to eventually tow a 10k trailer then I agree with everyone else here, you need a 250+
Last edited by w0lvez; 07-16-2016 at 01:50 PM.
#18
Why? Seems like a useless post to me. Why anyone would recommends a lessor vehicle to tow with. Smokey and I pretty much said the same thing, which answers the OP's question.
#19
Senior Member
A/T 346 ft lbs of TORQUE @ 1,500 RPM. Why tow/haul with gas engine that has very poor low end torque, needs more maintenance and burns 2-3 times more fuel? Why use V8 or V10 gas engine to tow/haul if 4 cylinder Diesel engine can do it more better & much faster?
Last edited by w0lvez; 07-17-2016 at 05:47 AM.
#20
Member
Thread Starter
Hi folks:
Sorry I haven't replied in a bit. I have been on vacation this whole time. Most are correct in thinking my goal really isn't to tow a 10k lb camper. I am one who likes the leeway. The campers I am looking at have a ~7k lb GVWR (at the max). That tells me I should have a tow vehicle up around 9k capability.
Sorry I wasn't clearer. What's confusing is trying to figure out which vehicles I come across online have that capability.
I have heard that the 3.5L V6 ecoboost is great for towing but then hear people have had lots of problems. In my limited knowledge of the best tow vehicles my intuition says go with a V8. Some listings do have axle ratios listed. What's best for towing?
Sorry I haven't replied in a bit. I have been on vacation this whole time. Most are correct in thinking my goal really isn't to tow a 10k lb camper. I am one who likes the leeway. The campers I am looking at have a ~7k lb GVWR (at the max). That tells me I should have a tow vehicle up around 9k capability.
Sorry I wasn't clearer. What's confusing is trying to figure out which vehicles I come across online have that capability.
I have heard that the 3.5L V6 ecoboost is great for towing but then hear people have had lots of problems. In my limited knowledge of the best tow vehicles my intuition says go with a V8. Some listings do have axle ratios listed. What's best for towing?