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Old 08-09-2015, 07:54 PM
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I'm a huge 150 fan, but listen to me, buy a 250. It will be a much more enjoyable towing experience. But as a daily driver the 150 is nice. I wish I had been smarter like yourself. I bought a tt that weighs 5200 dry. Was told by the rv dealer and by ford my 150 eco was up to the task. Power wise with the ecoboost I had zero issues. Loved that engine. But suspension wise it was a little to much for my liking. I had my wdh set correctly said the rv dealer I bought my tt from. I would honestly would never go above 50mph with my 150. Pogo effect was scary. Now I will say I was a rookie at towing a tt. But it made me uneasy so I traded my 150 on a 250 with a 6.7 diesel. The 250 made a world of difference. So much more secure towing. No pogo effects at all. And I usually tow running about 63mph now. I could go faster but I hear tt tires are only rated for 65
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Velosprout
It will be nearly impossible to find a used HD payload package truck.
Well the one in my sig, I bought used. So it is possible.
Less that 10 min. Here's one:
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...06983547&Log=0
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Old 08-10-2015, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Theobald
I want to thank everyone for their replies! (And ask another question...) I know this is a Ford Forum full of Ford Enthusiasts, :-) - but I was wondering if there was another vehicle from another manufacturer that I should also consider? And how I would want it build. One that would meet my needs of having a payload capacity of more than 2400 lbs and easily and safely tow an airstream weighing 6000 lbs over mountains. And, just to make the question harder, :-) one that will get decent gas mileage while towing the airstream and when not towing it, just driving to and from work?
Are you sure you need 2400#? That much payload puts you into F250, 2500HD territory. But they are gas hogs. Even the F250 big diesels don't do that well just driving around, although they'll beat the EcoBoost when towing. And the big diesels are so heavy that you'll probably need an F350, 3500HD to get your 2400# of payload.

A used F150 EcoB with HD Payload might get you 2400# but they are rare. And the 2015 HD Payload doesn't really exist.

On the horizon is the 2016 F150 with HD Payload. Or the new Nissan Titan XD with the 5L Cummins diesel (December?). Not all of those will have 2400# payload, but the Titan XD with the Cummins should get better mileage than the EcoBoost, especially when towing.

Further off in 2017 is the F250 with the Aluminum body. All sorts of rumours about what engine options will be available with that. And the F150 may come out with a new 8-10 speed tranny that should also improve mileage.

I'm towing an 8-8.5K # trailer that's much less aerodynamic than your Airstream with an F150 with ~2000# payload. It's doesn't have the HD Payload option so I had to beef up the suspension and switch to LT tires, but that still left the rear axle over-weight by a couple of %. The HD payload option would have been a better choice, but what I've got is working OK. We carry bikes and kayaks on the truck with a Leer cap.

Our next truck, hopefully next year, will be a 4x4 and probably the F150HD or the TitanXD/Cummins. We'll see ...
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:47 PM
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Can you load your "art fair" essentials in the TT? spread the load and it will help with payload. The truck will pull it with no problems. Putting it in the trailer lessens your payload number.
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Originally Posted by tony montana
I'm a huge 150 fan, but listen to me, buy a 250. It will be a much more enjoyable towing experience. But as a daily driver the 150 is nice. I wish I had been smarter like yourself. I bought a tt that weighs 5200 dry. Was told by the rv dealer and by ford my 150 eco was up to the task. Power wise with the ecoboost I had zero issues. Loved that engine. But suspension wise it was a little to much for my liking. I had my wdh set correctly said the rv dealer I bought my tt from. I would honestly would never go above 50mph with my 150. Pogo effect was scary. Now I will say I was a rookie at towing a tt. But it made me uneasy so I traded my 150 on a 250 with a 6.7 diesel. The 250 made a world of difference. So much more secure towing. No pogo effects at all. And I usually tow running about 63mph now. I could go faster but I hear tt tires are only rated for 65
So I agree 100% with Tony... I've been considering a F250 trade for the same reasons that he details. Good Luck.
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My dad's 2500HD Chevy has 3000# payload. Even so, that's a lot of truck for a gas engine and even more when towing heavy.
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Most people agree that the towed weight is fine at 6000 pounds but your payload is just to high...and I agree with that but the solution is not in the F250 its in placing the weight in the trailer instead of the truck. Why not put 800 lbs worth of fair gear in the trailer?
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Another possibility is one of the new diesel vans. Both RAM and Ford (Transit)have them. They have very high payloads (2-3K?) but lower tow capacities (6-7.5K?) than North American pickups. They might be just what you need. You were planning to put a cap on the pickup anyway ...

The diesel versions will give you better mileage, but some of the gas version will have more HP to get you up the hills faster (if that's important). The Ford Transit can be had with the 3.5L EcoBoost. Think Nissan just makes a gas version (NV 2500 or 3500 HD), including a V8.

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