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Old 06-09-2014, 02:18 PM
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I am still up for a OEM solution before jumping on the catch can band wagon. They are already working on it as a fix the for 3.5l is already out on the cars anyway. I am sure others to follow.
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Originally Posted by makuloco2000
I am still up for a OEM solution before jumping on the catch can band wagon. They are already working on it as a fix the for 3.5l is already out on the cars anyway. I am sure others to follow.
That's awesome. What is the fix for the cars?
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X2 Since I plan a fleet change in spring of 2015 I'm most interested in a (fix) OEM system and would like it in place on them from the Factory. It could possibly make the trade ins worth more also.
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Originally Posted by Ford850
That's awesome. What is the fix for the cars?
Here it is TSB 14-0113
It is not quite perfect yet but shows they are working on the issue.

FORD:
2010-2014 Flex, Taurus
2013-2014 Explorer
LINCOLN:
2010-2014 MKS, MKT
ISSUE
Some 2010-2014 Flex, MKS, MKT, Taurus and 2013-2014 Explorer vehicles equipped with a 3.5L Gasoline
Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDI) engine with an aluminum valve cover may exhibit excessive oil consumption and/or
excessive engine oil smoking condition from the tail pipe at idle during normal engine operating temperatures.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Remove the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) Valve. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-08.
2. Inspect for oil in the crankcase vent oil separator through the PCV valve opening. Is there presence of liquid oil, more
than slight vapor?
a. No - this article does not apply refer to WSM, Section 303-00 for Excessive Engine Oil Consumption.
b. Yes - proceed to Step 3.
3. Replace the right hand valve cover, refer to WSM, Section 303-01D.
4. Replace the crankcase vent oil separator, refer to WSM, Section 303-08.
5. Drive the vehicle at normal operating temperature for 20 minutes at constant highway speed to remove oil residue
from catalytic converter.
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Can you expand more on 3 & 4? Revised parts or something else...?
Old 06-12-2014, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by makuloco2000
Here it is TSB 14-0113
It is not quite perfect yet but shows they are working on the issue.

FORD:
2010-2014 Flex, Taurus
2013-2014 Explorer
LINCOLN:
2010-2014 MKS, MKT
ISSUE
Some 2010-2014 Flex, MKS, MKT, Taurus and 2013-2014 Explorer vehicles equipped with a 3.5L Gasoline
Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDI) engine with an aluminum valve cover may exhibit excessive oil consumption and/or
excessive engine oil smoking condition from the tail pipe at idle during normal engine operating temperatures.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Remove the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) Valve. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-08.
2. Inspect for oil in the crankcase vent oil separator through the PCV valve opening. Is there presence of liquid oil, more
than slight vapor?
a. No - this article does not apply refer to WSM, Section 303-00 for Excessive Engine Oil Consumption.
b. Yes - proceed to Step 3.
3. Replace the right hand valve cover, refer to WSM, Section 303-01D.
4. Replace the crankcase vent oil separator, refer to WSM, Section 303-08.
5. Drive the vehicle at normal operating temperature for 20 minutes at constant highway speed to remove oil residue
from catalytic converter.
That still does nothing to correct the lack of evacuation most of the operating time which allows this gunk to accumulate in the crankcase to begin with. The PCV valve only allows evacuation at idle and low throttle so the lack of proper, steady, constant evacuation of these vapors to begin with is the root cause. Correct it so the PCV system constantly evacuates these compounds while still in a suspended or vapor state they accumulate in the crankcase in concentrate. There is no solution to the core issue until that can be corrected.
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Originally Posted by Eco Tuner
That still does nothing to correct the lack of evacuation most of the operating time which allows this gunk to accumulate in the crankcase to begin with. The PCV valve only allows evacuation at idle and low throttle so the lack of proper, steady, constant evacuation of these vapors to begin with is the root cause.
You constantly repeat this rubbish yet you have no oil analyses that show this to be a concern on the Ecoboost. Unless there are other issues, Ecoboosts do not show elevated fuel #'s in relation to other DI engines, wear metals are no higher, other stuff is no higher, etc. If it were accumulating in the crankcase it would also be contaminating the oil and thus show up on an analysis.

So where is this "flaw" that is so bad? Cause the data does not show it. The amount of Ecoboosts on the road for the past 5 years without incident don't support this "flaw", despite racking up some serious miles. One making such serious accusations should surely bring proof.

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Originally Posted by makuloco2000
Here it is TSB 14-0113
It is not quite perfect yet but shows they are working on the issue.

FORD:
2010-2014 Flex, Taurus
2013-2014 Explorer
LINCOLN:
2010-2014 MKS, MKT
ISSUE
Some 2010-2014 Flex, MKS, MKT, Taurus and 2013-2014 Explorer vehicles equipped with a 3.5L Gasoline
Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDI) engine with an aluminum valve cover may exhibit excessive oil consumption and/or
excessive engine oil smoking condition from the tail pipe at idle during normal engine operating temperatures.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Remove the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) Valve. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 303-08.
2. Inspect for oil in the crankcase vent oil separator through the PCV valve opening. Is there presence of liquid oil, more
than slight vapor?
a. No - this article does not apply refer to WSM, Section 303-00 for Excessive Engine Oil Consumption.
b. Yes - proceed to Step 3.
3. Replace the right hand valve cover, refer to WSM, Section 303-01D.
4. Replace the crankcase vent oil separator, refer to WSM, Section 303-08.
5. Drive the vehicle at normal operating temperature for 20 minutes at constant highway speed to remove oil residue
from catalytic converter.
Wash, rinse, repeat! Kick the can down the road and let someone else deal with it!
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Originally Posted by Left Plate
Wash, rinse, repeat! Kick the can down the road and let someone else deal with it!
I agree. It's disappointing to see the 'fix' is simply replacing parts with the same parts.
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Mak can you confirm - are they redesigned parts or the same?


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