2013 Ecoboost disappoints vs. 2011 Ecoboost :HELP
#151
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I'm not even sure where to drill and tap the exhaust header for a sensor to pickup proper egt readings. Also what are acceptable readings under loads. On my old 6.0 diesel. Typical was about 1050 pulling about 12k. Then when pulling a big hill or a mountain pass, 1250 to 1350 under 32lbs of boost.
But for this little 3.5 I have no idea. Isn't typical boost about 6 to 9 lbs?
But for this little 3.5 I have no idea. Isn't typical boost about 6 to 9 lbs?
You can read cat temps on the torque app and a bunch more combustion conditions but I haven't found a typical exhaust temp reading as in my diesels.
Gas engines generally have much hotter exhaust temps at light loads, loading both engines heavy helps equalize max temps.
Boost in my stock ecoboost maxes at 17 at around 4500 rpm. Runs about 13 @ 2500, gets up to 8 pretty easy above 1500 and just climbs up to 17 before tapering off to max rpm.
Data logging shows this pretty good on a spreadsheet.
#152
No, boost is a lot higher.
You can read cat temps on the torque app and a bunch more combustion conditions but I haven't found a typical exhaust temp reading as in my diesels.
Gas engines generally have much hotter exhaust temps at light loads, loading both engines heavy helps equalize max temps.
Boost in my stock ecoboost maxes at 17 at around 4500 rpm. Runs about 13 @ 2500, gets up to 8 pretty easy above 1500 and just climbs up to 17 before tapering off to max rpm.
Data logging shows this pretty good on a spreadsheet.
#153
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All warrantied up with 5*.
It removes all the options I enjoyed in favour of a default setting. Probably to avoid tinkering and stressing the power train.
I guess I email for a tune to suit my winter tire size.
It removes all the options I enjoyed in favour of a default setting. Probably to avoid tinkering and stressing the power train.
I guess I email for a tune to suit my winter tire size.
#154
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I've had my service, ran a few miles, loaded my 87 ptw 5* warrantied tune, loaded up my trailer and went on a drive.
Drove the heck out of it, hard. 300 miles, high speed, hilly terrain, lots of heavy throttle and high fuel consumption.
Have checked my oil level several times in every consistent way possible by an operator and I notice ZERO oil consumption.
No gassy smell, everything seems perfect, no blue smoke after heavy towing etc.
So what was up with the oil consumption on my holidays?
Still breaking in? Extremely long downhills with high vacuum during engine braking? Oil change just went too long and started breaking down?
I will have to monitor further but at least full throttle and long periods of high boost does not seem to be part of the problem.
Drove the heck out of it, hard. 300 miles, high speed, hilly terrain, lots of heavy throttle and high fuel consumption.
Have checked my oil level several times in every consistent way possible by an operator and I notice ZERO oil consumption.
No gassy smell, everything seems perfect, no blue smoke after heavy towing etc.
So what was up with the oil consumption on my holidays?
Still breaking in? Extremely long downhills with high vacuum during engine braking? Oil change just went too long and started breaking down?
I will have to monitor further but at least full throttle and long periods of high boost does not seem to be part of the problem.
#155
I've had my service, ran a few miles, loaded my 87 ptw 5* warrantied tune, loaded up my trailer and went on a drive. Drove the heck out of it, hard. 300 miles, high speed, hilly terrain, lots of heavy throttle and high fuel consumption. Have checked my oil level several times in every consistent way possible by an operator and I notice ZERO oil consumption. No gassy smell, everything seems perfect, no blue smoke after heavy towing etc. So what was up with the oil consumption on my holidays? Still breaking in? Extremely long downhills with high vacuum during engine braking? Oil change just went too long and started breaking down? I will have to monitor further but at least full throttle and long periods of high boost does not seem to be part of the problem.
#156
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I'll keep monitoring and recording, all I can do at this point.
Hopefully it was just an anomaly the one time.
#157
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Yes very strange. Makes me think it isn't a mechanical problem with the engine. Usually it doesn't just fix itself. Maybe it was something like the PCV stuck open for a while and pushing oil into the turbo inlet. I don't know. Seems very odd.
#158
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Especially now since I romped the heck out of it pulling the same trailer on the same roads and had no oil use, where before I used 1/3 of a liter in the same mileage.
The only change has been an oil change! With same oil being used.
#159
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Could have been something from the oil change but not sure what they would have done.
#160
I am guessing you never figured out what was actually wrong with your 2013 truck? I really wish you would have. I am having very similar issues. Had to have transmission work done (several times due to leaking) and I think they reflashed the truck at that time. My truck has never been the same. Dealer just says there are no codes and I have the latest update. Nothing they can do. Same exact symptoms though. Poor performance and milage. Was getting 14 city & 18-19 highway. Now getting about 10-11 & 15-16. Towing my boat (7,000 lbs) I went from 10 mpg to 6 mpg. Not all exact figures because obviously it changes every time, but definitely a noticable difference . I use to pull my boat down the interstate at 65 - 70 mph and would hold 6th gear very well. Occasionally drop to 5th. Now runs in 5th drops to 4th and hardly ever goes to 6th unless I let off the gas and trick it into shifting. Then back to 5th with the slightest touch of the pedal.