F150 Expedition Brake swap 2016
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First you will need calipers with mounting brackets from a 2000 f150 7700. There are two types, phenolic piston and steel piston, you will want the steel piston ones. Carcrazy let me in on this.
Next you will need rotors from and expedition to fit the larger calipers. Not sure if you have 12mm studs, but if you have the parts guy pull a couple of them you can compare and maybe get some from a 97-98. I'm just not sure if they are the same size as the 99+.
Then all you need is a good set of semi-metallic pads. Do not buy ceramic! They will glaze over and chatter. I started with ceramics and after having issues I went to semi-metallic. I haven't had an issue in almost 10k miles now.
I used Napa to get all the parts and bought their best semi-metallic pads. My brakes are far better now, I can be hard on them at times when towing or just having fun and have no issues with warping.
Hope this helps!
Next you will need rotors from and expedition to fit the larger calipers. Not sure if you have 12mm studs, but if you have the parts guy pull a couple of them you can compare and maybe get some from a 97-98. I'm just not sure if they are the same size as the 99+.
Then all you need is a good set of semi-metallic pads. Do not buy ceramic! They will glaze over and chatter. I started with ceramics and after having issues I went to semi-metallic. I haven't had an issue in almost 10k miles now.
I used Napa to get all the parts and bought their best semi-metallic pads. My brakes are far better now, I can be hard on them at times when towing or just having fun and have no issues with warping.
Hope this helps!
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YES, it helps tremendously. Now those are what I'm looking for and for some reason, that set up looks much larger than what I have. There's not much online about this swap. Think I going to go with what the guys mentioned earlier,- EBC pads. I'm looking at the yellows.
Yea, I had a bad case of fade earlier this year, freaked me out with a few close calls using Ceramic pads. I have the larger lugs on the 98.
Thanks a lot.
BTW, yea that's all I use is steel piston calipers.
Side question. Did you crank T bars are you truck any ? I ask because I was wondering how the Fox shocks handle the crank. My Bilstiens weren't long enough, I had to extend the shocks 1" to get my ride back.
Yea, I had a bad case of fade earlier this year, freaked me out with a few close calls using Ceramic pads. I have the larger lugs on the 98.
Thanks a lot.
BTW, yea that's all I use is steel piston calipers.
Side question. Did you crank T bars are you truck any ? I ask because I was wondering how the Fox shocks handle the crank. My Bilstiens weren't long enough, I had to extend the shocks 1" to get my ride back.
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The current set up, -
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YES, it helps tremendously. Now those are what I'm looking for and for some reason, that set up looks much larger than what I have. There's not much online about this swap. Think I going to go with what the guys mentioned earlier,- EBC pads. I'm looking at the yellows. Yea, I had a bad case of fade earlier this year, freaked me out with a few close calls using Ceramic pads. I have the larger lugs on the 98. Thanks a lot. BTW, yea that's all I use is steel piston calipers. Side question. Did you crank T bars are you truck any ? I ask because I was wondering how the Fox shocks handle the crank. My Bilstiens weren't long enough, I had to extend the shocks 1" to get my ride back.
As far as the Fox shocks, they have been amazing! I am cranked up to almost the max, 24" from center of hub with no issues and I've had them almost 3 years. The amount of control with them esp in high speed offroad scenarios is amazing. Towing they are great as well, *** stays firmly planted. The best part of the Foxs and the reason I will stay with them is that they are rebuildable. Send them to Fox and they will do it for $50 per shock. I'm actually getting ready to send my rears in as they are starting to leak.
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white89gt (07-28-2016)
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I've been considering switching to EBC pads but I haven't beat up on my truck much at all in the last 6 months. After buying the house I've been way too busy. I still have piles of parts to install and tons of things to "Finish up" that should have been done a long time ago.
I've said it before but I wouldn't waste my time on this mod unless everything needed to be replaced anyway. The parts are roughly the same prices so it makes sense if you're already doing an overhaul or you're pushing the limits of your truck routinely. I don't like to tow a trailer when I go Overlanding but when the Boat or camper is on and we're going through the Virginia mountains I'm much less worried.
I've said it before but I wouldn't waste my time on this mod unless everything needed to be replaced anyway. The parts are roughly the same prices so it makes sense if you're already doing an overhaul or you're pushing the limits of your truck routinely. I don't like to tow a trailer when I go Overlanding but when the Boat or camper is on and we're going through the Virginia mountains I'm much less worried.
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Thanks for the vid man, yea, I 'm add ing those in. IF I can find them for my application.
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I caught this vid after watching the one you posted up, -
This is why I went with the Brembo's way back when. They were the same in comparison with the Ford rotors, -
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Also I do have drag. One side is worse than the other and there's absolutely nothing wrong with all parts in relation except for the MC. The compensation ports in the master cylinder were partially contaminated, cleaned them both, haven't tested yet but that most likley was all of the drag problem. Anyway, has me thinking to just clean the Brembo's up, off the ceramics and go w/EBC green or yellow pads (haven't made that decision yet, but I'm swearing off ceramics). I guess all this is worth a shot.
My calipers are cardon/Ford rebuilds w/steel pistons. Both calipers function very well but I noticed pressure proportion to the calipers are not the same. Finally found out why. When I replaced the brake hard-lines, I cut the drivers side 6" shorter vs the passenger side. Under the impression that it should not matter once bled. Apparently it does. The front right and left hard lines need to be of identical length to provide equal pressure to calipers. Slack in the drivers side must be coiled at and below the master cylinder in succession until slack is removed.
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I caught this vid after watching the one you posted up, -
This is why I went with the Brembo's way back when. They were the same in comparison with the Ford rotors, -
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Also I do have drag. One side is worse than the other and there's absolutely nothing wrong with all parts in relation except for the MC. The compensation ports in the master cylinder were partially contaminated, cleaned them both, haven't tested yet but that most likley was all of the drag problem. Anyway, has me thinking to just clean the Brembo's up, off the ceramics and go w/EBC green or yellow pads (haven't made that decision yet, but I'm swearing off ceramics). I guess all this is worth a shot.
My calipers are cardon/Ford rebuilds w/steel pistons. Both calipers function very well but I noticed pressure proportion to the calipers are not the same. Finally found out why. When I replaced the brake hard-lines, I cut the drivers side 6" shorter vs the passenger side. Under the impression that it should not matter once bled. Apparently it does. The front right and left hard lines need to be of identical length to provide equal pressure to calipers. Slack in the drivers side must be coiled at and below the master cylinder in succession until slack is removed.
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After < 10,000 miles they looked like this:
to be fair, the rear brake had some issues (rear anchor plate was not allowing the calipers to slide correctly), but still. Whatever pads were on there before did not do this.
I have heard the same thing. I do want to put some braided lines on my front calipers though.