Stay away from the 5.4l triton!!!
05-16-2015, 12:24 PM
#11
The one thing so many people miss is this. HOW many of these engines have been produced? and how many have had actual issues? I bet once you do the math it is a very small percentage. Yes they can have issues and will have issues if you choose to use different grades of oil then the recommended 5-20, or you do not change the oil often enough. My truck had 176,000 on it when I bought it and it had just had the timing guide and tensioner fail causing a timing skip and blowing up my CATS (this is just before I bought it and I knew what had failed) I got a smoking deal on it and knew the cost of a 4 year 1 million mile warranty engines cost so I bought it and slapped a new motor in it! NOW I expect I will get more miles out of it that the frame will last!
05-16-2015, 02:12 PM
#12
Quote from OP: "I don't even want to get started with the spark plugs that break in the engine if you don't know what you are doing."
Why are you working on your truck if you dont know what you are doing? I am with the others, yes the 5.4 has issues, many issues. But if maintained properly, they are great engines. I have and 07 F150 with 130K and an 07 Expedition with 120K. Zero issues with either. Good lucK with your rusted out Toyota frames and your transmission problems with your Chevy. There is no such thing as a perfect truck, unless you stuff a Cummings into a F350.
Why are you working on your truck if you dont know what you are doing? I am with the others, yes the 5.4 has issues, many issues. But if maintained properly, they are great engines. I have and 07 F150 with 130K and an 07 Expedition with 120K. Zero issues with either. Good lucK with your rusted out Toyota frames and your transmission problems with your Chevy. There is no such thing as a perfect truck, unless you stuff a Cummings into a F350.
Last edited by Summers22; 05-16-2015 at 09:32 PM.
05-16-2015, 03:40 PM
#13
My 04 FX4 (5 code) 5.4 has about 90,000 miles on it and has never given me any issues. I tow heavy with it all the time and definitely don't baby it. It gets regular off road use and has had zero suspension or 4WD issues.
Changed the plugs myself for about $150 and didn't break a single one. I still have the Lisle extraction set brand new in the box.
If I get any of the cam phaser issues Ill pull the valve covers myself for free If that's all it takes to replace them.
Changed the plugs myself for about $150 and didn't break a single one. I still have the Lisle extraction set brand new in the box.
If I get any of the cam phaser issues Ill pull the valve covers myself for free If that's all it takes to replace them.
05-16-2015, 10:57 PM
#16
After owning two Toyotas and a Nissan truck, overall this 2007 F150 is the best vehicle I've ever owned.
No it's not perfect. But it has provided the most reliable service and overall joy of ownership of any vehicle I've ever owned.
It is still a joy to drive and have no plans on replacing it any time soon.
No it's not perfect. But it has provided the most reliable service and overall joy of ownership of any vehicle I've ever owned.
It is still a joy to drive and have no plans on replacing it any time soon.
05-17-2015, 04:29 AM
#17
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Look all i am saying is that if the 5.4 was suck a tank and was built Ford Tough i would not have to replace my engine just over 100,000 miles. that to me is a piece of **** engine. now yes there are many out there that i am sure are fine for now, but i looked up all of this after i bought the truck and when i just had this issue. i am not that mechanically inclined to do the work myself and i don't have the tools and **** to do it. some of you guys might and thats great. my Chevy lasted me close to 200,000 miles on it before the transfer case was taking a ****. no engine ever should be replaced with this low of miles. yes 100,000 miles is low miles these days where they are building cars to last well over 300,000. now i know toyota has its downs to. all i am saying is i am just another pissed of customer that has to dumb a **** ton of money into something that should be lasting me another 100,000 miles or more if it was so good. i loved that truck more than my chevy when i bought it. it was a tank until issue after issue came up. i wanted to be safe with the spark plugs then have me do it because i have bad luck and would **** it up if i broke one and then what! you guys can bash all you want, but Ford has a lawsuit about this and the spark plugs so that must say something. it says there is alot more out there that you know about and its still happenening. HAs far has takeing care of my truck, i treat it like it was my very own child. never missed oil changes, just put fully synthetic oil in it which im thinking might have made it go bad really. here i am thinking im babying the truck and now this! Yes i guess i shouldn't base my opion on 1 mess up that Ford knew about but it does sway me another way has for another brand.
05-17-2015, 01:56 PM
#18
Member
Hi there,
The cam phasers did, in fact, go through a redesign in the 2007 model year to address this issue. This problem is a bummer but it is the side effect of new engine technology being sampled. That said, most people don't seem to suffer from phaser failure. I am in the middle of uploading a definitive guide to phaser noise on my 2005 F-150 with 172,000 rounds on it. She is loud and gurgles but runs great.
You knew going into the 5.4L that this was a known issue. When you look at the grand scheme of the repair, it isn't actually that expensive. With the Tundra's iForce engine, it is hard to gauge the longevity of them because they haven't existed for a long time. I can pretty much promise you as a long-term Toyota car owner, they will likely experience costly failures as they age. One thing to consider about the 5.4L is the modular nature of it makes repairs and rebuilding easy, so the overall cost of ownership isn't super bad.
When you look at Chevy's Vortec and the Dodge Magnums from similar timeframes, all of these had problems. The Magnums were prone to valve cover leaks that could drastically reduce performance and, left unchecked, could lead to more problems. The Vortec were prone to head gasket leaks with mileage. Every single engine has a problem that it can experience. If we have something as simple as a timing failure, this is not horrible. Some people take the opportunity to do a "When in Rome" overhaul of the timing system and replace the chains, lifters, tensioners, phasers, and oil pump/pump gaskets. I am sorry you had a bad experience but with so many of us close to or over 200,000 miles with no timing work done, your case doesn't present a status quo but rather a minority of unfortunate errors. IF you hate the truck, sell it... Someone else will love it instead.
The cam phasers did, in fact, go through a redesign in the 2007 model year to address this issue. This problem is a bummer but it is the side effect of new engine technology being sampled. That said, most people don't seem to suffer from phaser failure. I am in the middle of uploading a definitive guide to phaser noise on my 2005 F-150 with 172,000 rounds on it. She is loud and gurgles but runs great.
You knew going into the 5.4L that this was a known issue. When you look at the grand scheme of the repair, it isn't actually that expensive. With the Tundra's iForce engine, it is hard to gauge the longevity of them because they haven't existed for a long time. I can pretty much promise you as a long-term Toyota car owner, they will likely experience costly failures as they age. One thing to consider about the 5.4L is the modular nature of it makes repairs and rebuilding easy, so the overall cost of ownership isn't super bad.
When you look at Chevy's Vortec and the Dodge Magnums from similar timeframes, all of these had problems. The Magnums were prone to valve cover leaks that could drastically reduce performance and, left unchecked, could lead to more problems. The Vortec were prone to head gasket leaks with mileage. Every single engine has a problem that it can experience. If we have something as simple as a timing failure, this is not horrible. Some people take the opportunity to do a "When in Rome" overhaul of the timing system and replace the chains, lifters, tensioners, phasers, and oil pump/pump gaskets. I am sorry you had a bad experience but with so many of us close to or over 200,000 miles with no timing work done, your case doesn't present a status quo but rather a minority of unfortunate errors. IF you hate the truck, sell it... Someone else will love it instead.
Last edited by stcolorado; 05-17-2015 at 05:30 PM.
05-17-2015, 04:40 PM
#19
Quote from OP: "I don't even want to get started with the spark plugs that break in the engine if you don't know what you are doing."
Why are you working on your truck if you dont know what you are doing? I am with the others, yes the 5.4 has issues, many issues. But if maintained properly, they are great engines. I have and 07 F150 with 130K and an 07 Expedition with 120K. Zero issues with either. Good lucK with your rusted out Toyota frames and your transmission problems with your Chevy. There is no such thing as a perfect truck, unless you stuff a Cummings into a F350.
Why are you working on your truck if you dont know what you are doing? I am with the others, yes the 5.4 has issues, many issues. But if maintained properly, they are great engines. I have and 07 F150 with 130K and an 07 Expedition with 120K. Zero issues with either. Good lucK with your rusted out Toyota frames and your transmission problems with your Chevy. There is no such thing as a perfect truck, unless you stuff a Cummings into a F350.
Hi there,
The cam phasers did, in fact, go through a redesign in the 2007 model year to address this issue. This problem is a bummer but it is the side effect of new engine technology being sampled. That said, most people don't seem to suffer from phaser failure. I am in the middle of uploading a definitive guide to phaser noise on my 2005 F-150 with 172,000 rounds on it. She is loud and gurgles but runs great.
You knew going into the 5.4L that this was a known issue. When you look at the grand scheme of the repair, it isn't actually that expensive. With the Tundra's iForce engine, it is hard to gauge the longevity of them because they haven't existed for a long time. I can pretty much promise you as a long-term Toyota car owner, they will likely experience costly failures as they age. One thing to consider about the 5.4L is the modular nature of it makes repairs and rebuilding easy, so the overall cost of ownership isn't super bad.
When you look at Chevy's Vortex and the Dodge Magnums from similar timeframes, all of these had problems. The Magnums were prone to valve cover leaks that could drastically reduce performance and, left unchecked, could lead to more problems. The Vortex were prone to head gasket leaks with mileage. Every single engine has a problem that it can experience. If we have something as simple as a timing failure, this is not horrible. Some people take the opportunity to do a "When in Rome" overhaul of the timing system and replace the chains, lifters, tensioners, phasers, and oil pump/pump gaskets. I am sorry you had a bad experience but with so many of us close to or over 200,000 miles with no timing work done, your case doesn't present a status quo but rather a minority of unfortunate errors. IF you hate the truck, sell it... Someone else will love it instead.
The cam phasers did, in fact, go through a redesign in the 2007 model year to address this issue. This problem is a bummer but it is the side effect of new engine technology being sampled. That said, most people don't seem to suffer from phaser failure. I am in the middle of uploading a definitive guide to phaser noise on my 2005 F-150 with 172,000 rounds on it. She is loud and gurgles but runs great.
You knew going into the 5.4L that this was a known issue. When you look at the grand scheme of the repair, it isn't actually that expensive. With the Tundra's iForce engine, it is hard to gauge the longevity of them because they haven't existed for a long time. I can pretty much promise you as a long-term Toyota car owner, they will likely experience costly failures as they age. One thing to consider about the 5.4L is the modular nature of it makes repairs and rebuilding easy, so the overall cost of ownership isn't super bad.
When you look at Chevy's Vortex and the Dodge Magnums from similar timeframes, all of these had problems. The Magnums were prone to valve cover leaks that could drastically reduce performance and, left unchecked, could lead to more problems. The Vortex were prone to head gasket leaks with mileage. Every single engine has a problem that it can experience. If we have something as simple as a timing failure, this is not horrible. Some people take the opportunity to do a "When in Rome" overhaul of the timing system and replace the chains, lifters, tensioners, phasers, and oil pump/pump gaskets. I am sorry you had a bad experience but with so many of us close to or over 200,000 miles with no timing work done, your case doesn't present a status quo but rather a minority of unfortunate errors. IF you hate the truck, sell it... Someone else will love it instead.
Sorry, I had to.
05-17-2015, 05:05 PM
#20
Senior Member
Look all i am saying is that if the 5.4 was suck a tank and was built Ford Tough i would not have to replace my engine just over 100,000 miles. that to me is a piece of **** engine. now yes there are many out there that i am sure are fine for now, but i looked up all of this after i bought the truck and when i just had this issue. i am not that mechanically inclined to do the work myself and i don't have the tools and **** to do it. some of you guys might and thats great. my Chevy lasted me close to 200,000 miles on it before the transfer case was taking a ****. no engine ever should be replaced with this low of miles. yes 100,000 miles is low miles these days where they are building cars to last well over 300,000. now i know toyota has its downs to. all i am saying is i am just another pissed of customer that has to dumb a **** ton of money into something that should be lasting me another 100,000 miles or more if it was so good. i loved that truck more than my chevy when i bought it. it was a tank until issue after issue came up. i wanted to be safe with the spark plugs then have me do it because i have bad luck and would **** it up if i broke one and then what! you guys can bash all you want, but Ford has a lawsuit about this and the spark plugs so that must say something. it says there is alot more out there that you know about and its still happenening. HAs far has takeing care of my truck, i treat it like it was my very own child. never missed oil changes, just put fully synthetic oil in it which im thinking might have made it go bad really. here i am thinking im babying the truck and now this! Yes i guess i shouldn't base my opion on 1 mess up that Ford knew about but it does sway me another way has for another brand.