15W40 to the rescue!!!!
07-06-2012, 10:56 PM
#21
Paint it black
Originally Posted by Rocko1
Most of those are 2V. I know several fleets that never touched the 5w20 and ran 10w30 with most hitting 200K without ever being opened and some close to 400K.
Factory Ford engineers know what they are doing.
07-07-2012, 01:20 PM
#23
That's right... They know when it's time for you to get back on the lot, accrue some more debt, and get that flashy new truck... It's how business in this country works.... There is no real good reason why you can't get 300k out of today's motors, they are Infact engineered very well, until it hits the 2nd round of engineering where shaving penny's is the objective..after that It's all about market regulations enforced by CAFE. So once this thing hits the market, there are certain forces besides marketing, propaganda, commodity prices, jobs, and inflation forcing you out of that model and into the next... If you look closely enough you can actually see the funnel that guides you back into the lot to get that new truck.
07-07-2012, 01:27 PM
#24
Senior Member
Probably a good idea to get onta a well trusted oil site. Most 5-30 wt oils are goingto sheer to a 20wt readily. Rotella 15-40 is a damn good oil, I use it in my Brute Force 750 quad. BUT inwouldnt use it in my 150 ... Additive pack quite different than MOtorCraft 5-20 or any other SN certified 5-20 for gas engines.
07-07-2012, 04:38 PM
#25
Paint it black
Originally Posted by Rocko1
Well they know how to make the motor make it just past 100K and meet CAFE requirements.
07-07-2012, 10:05 PM
#27
Member
Thread Starter
Probably a good idea to get onta a well trusted oil site. Most 5-30 wt oils are goingto sheer to a 20wt readily. Rotella 15-40 is a damn good oil, I use it in my Brute Force 750 quad. BUT inwouldnt use it in my 150 ... Additive pack quite different than MOtorCraft 5-20 or any other SN certified 5-20 for gas engines.
I am in no way an engineer for Ford Motor Company but this engine was a mistake from the beginning and should have been trashed....oh right, they did that! Just too late is all.
All major Car companies have their issues with what they produce but Ford should have stepped up and recalled these troublesome motors instead of band-aiding and mis-diagnosing them. Christ, Toyota has issued me over 70,000 dollars in cheques for Tacoma's with frame rot......They knew they made a mistake and paid dearly for it.
Again, I was excited about owning a Ford for the first time and love everything about the F150's....well almost everything!!!!
07-15-2012, 10:38 PM
#29
I'm around, just late to the game.
To the CAFE comments: Even in other parts of the world, the 3V 5.4L is still specd for 5w20 or 5w30. That said, I use a 5w30 oil to remain nameless that is on the "thin" end of a 5w30 range.
The old 10w40 recommendation was an Oasis report by Ford which has since been removed from the records. Ford is not condoning the use of it for the phaser noise. Unless the oil is labeled for gas engines, the higher levels of some additives can poison the cats over time. a Xw20 weight oil is not "too thin" for several applications and can actually provide better protection.
OP: If you really do believe there is an issue, take the front cover off and take a peek inside. These motors are prone to varnish build up and also have the timing chain guide along with the VCT issues.
To the CAFE comments: Even in other parts of the world, the 3V 5.4L is still specd for 5w20 or 5w30. That said, I use a 5w30 oil to remain nameless that is on the "thin" end of a 5w30 range.
The old 10w40 recommendation was an Oasis report by Ford which has since been removed from the records. Ford is not condoning the use of it for the phaser noise. Unless the oil is labeled for gas engines, the higher levels of some additives can poison the cats over time. a Xw20 weight oil is not "too thin" for several applications and can actually provide better protection.
OP: If you really do believe there is an issue, take the front cover off and take a peek inside. These motors are prone to varnish build up and also have the timing chain guide along with the VCT issues.
07-16-2012, 12:35 PM
#30
Member
Thread Starter
Why are they prone to Varnish build up? Is it because of the type of oil they recommended? Or is because of weak oil pumps not providing enough protection and circulation of oil at the top end?