Ford ditches MS...
12-13-2014, 11:50 AM
#21
About F-ING TIME!!!! The thing that drives me mad is the Microsoft crap in my Fords! Good riddance. Microsoft has been a cancer on the world and one more failure for them is awesome!
QNX is from Blackberry but that's it. It has little relation to Blackberries. It's a real-time OS that's used in many, many industrial applications where failure is not an option. It's based on a UNIX-like Kernel and is really, really good. Video Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX
Personally I would have liked to see some embedded Linux but QNX is a step in the right direction.
Choosing Microsoft was a huge mistake for Ford. Their "auto" platform, like all Windows CE (which it was based on) is utter garbage, built on the unreliable Windows kernel. It's no wonder it didn't work right as things got more complicated. Windows in all forms is utter garbage.
Now let's just see what cars get it first. The wife is looking at a new vehicle in '15 and this may be worth waiting for!
QNX is from Blackberry but that's it. It has little relation to Blackberries. It's a real-time OS that's used in many, many industrial applications where failure is not an option. It's based on a UNIX-like Kernel and is really, really good. Video Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX
Personally I would have liked to see some embedded Linux but QNX is a step in the right direction.
Choosing Microsoft was a huge mistake for Ford. Their "auto" platform, like all Windows CE (which it was based on) is utter garbage, built on the unreliable Windows kernel. It's no wonder it didn't work right as things got more complicated. Windows in all forms is utter garbage.
Now let's just see what cars get it first. The wife is looking at a new vehicle in '15 and this may be worth waiting for!
The new iterations of systems coming up should scare the crap out of everybody. There will undoubtedly be non standard implementations of systems that only work with certain compatible phones. Then add in the inevitable lack of system updates on car systems and the frequent update schedule for phones and it is a recipe for disaster. You will get the privilege of paying your dealer to flash your system every few months to keep it going.
Dumb Bluetooth connections like basic sync with some refinements strikes me as far superior to android auto or car play. Both will have vested interests on making features that only work in their system. Heck apple already has a complete bs patent on geofencing related to car integration. I've been doing that crap with tasker for years.
Unless the us patent office gets much smarter and manufacturers of cars get much better about designing and updating these systems I predict gobs of unhappy customers after 6 months to a year.
But qnx has been in vw, Audi, BMW, and gm for a while now.
12-14-2014, 06:07 PM
#22
Although current SYNC owners will not have the option of upgrading to SYNC 3, you aren't being left behind! Ford will continue providing software updates for current owners to optimize compatibility and performance as new consumer devices become available.
SYNC 3 is being launched in 2015, but specific vehicle implementation information (say that 5 times fast
) hasn’t been announced just yet. We plan to migrate to all new vehicles in North America by the end of 2016.Due to the cost of hardware, software licensing, and labor time, there are currently no plans to offer SYNC 3 as an aftermarket installation.
All I need out of my radio is Bluetooth to sync my phone for calls/iTunes and FM radio. The problem I have with sync is that it doesn't always Sync!!!!! Microsoft sucks, maybe Apple does, or both. But in this world of technology, I find Microsoft Sync to be extremely inconvenient and non user friendly. When I get in my pickup, it should be able to sync immediately at the very least. Hell, by now it should be able to start my pickup. I shouldn't even have a key fob.... My phone and truck should be able to speak together and unlock the door. Not that I need any of this, but it should have the ability to do it. It effin irks me, because I would be happy with 0 buttons, and just walk into the pickup and go. I'm simple and it can't even do that.
The system is designed to automatically connect upon entering the vehicle and starting the engine. The first (and easiest) troubleshooting step I recommend, is performing a soft reset to the iPhone. Just hold the POWER and HOME buttons until the Apple logo shows up on the screen. When the phone powers back up, you should notice an improvement in your Bluetooth connection with SYNC.
Also, if you haven’t already updated your phone’s software to V8.1 or higher, I recommend doing this.
I've not had a single problem with the non mft sync. Mft sucks.
I wish it would auto restore the Bluetooth streaming, but that is minor. Most cars have a setting you can select to either continue from last spot or wait for command. Not sync. I've used it with 4 different android phones and two I phones. Outside of recent iOS 8 issues none had a problem connecting, calling, or streaming. And the ios problems were fixed by an update and had nothing to do with sync, it was a phone bug.
I wish it would auto restore the Bluetooth streaming, but that is minor. Most cars have a setting you can select to either continue from last spot or wait for command. Not sync. I've used it with 4 different android phones and two I phones. Outside of recent iOS 8 issues none had a problem connecting, calling, or streaming. And the ios problems were fixed by an update and had nothing to do with sync, it was a phone bug.
From what you've described, I'd say your SYNC system is functioning as intended.
If you haven’t already created an account at: www.Social.Ford.com I encourage you to sign up! There’s a great place to leave your product suggestions and ideas so our product development team gets a chance to see them.
Kim
Last edited by FordIVTteam; 12-16-2014 at 06:07 PM.
12-14-2014, 06:16 PM
#23
King Hater
Hey Kenferg1,
Although current SYNC owners will not have the option of upgrading to SYNC 3, you aren't being left behind! Ford will continue providing software updates for current owners to optimize compatibility and performance as new consumer devices become available.
Kim
Although current SYNC owners will not have the option of upgrading to SYNC 3, you aren't being left behind! Ford will continue providing software updates for current owners to optimize compatibility and performance as new consumer devices become available.
Kim
I would love to see a completely new OS available for our trucks.
12-14-2014, 06:35 PM
#24
I encourage you to set up an account at : www.Social.Ford.com so you can leave feedback about what you'd like to see in the future for your truck. This is the best place to post these types of suggestions because Ford's product development team looks through the ideas for consumer insights and inspiration.
Kim
Last edited by FordIVTteam; 12-14-2014 at 06:46 PM.
12-14-2014, 07:02 PM
#25
Hi Tothemax,
I encourage you to set up an account at : www.Social.Ford.com so you can leave feedback about what you'd like to see in the future for your truck. This is the best place to post these types of suggestions because Ford's product development team looks through the ideas for consumer insights and inspiration.
Kim
I encourage you to set up an account at : www.Social.Ford.com so you can leave feedback about what you'd like to see in the future for your truck. This is the best place to post these types of suggestions because Ford's product development team looks through the ideas for consumer insights and inspiration.
Kim
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12-14-2014, 07:38 PM
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King Hater
12-14-2014, 07:46 PM
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Oooo a Custom Title.
12-14-2014, 07:46 PM
#29
I'm happy to document feedback on my end. I just enjoy the website because you can see ideas from other owners. Sometimes it is fun to see what others come up with!
You can always feel free to PM recommendations/feedback along with your name, VIN, current mileage and best phone number. I'll take care of it from there.
Awesome, fastbydrmike! Thanks for sharing. If any questions come up in the future, you know where to find us!
Kim
12-14-2014, 10:14 PM
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I have 6 iPhones and 4 iPads and multiple iPods. All are up to date with the Lastest IOS as soon as it's available. It's a Microsoft sync issue or maybe an issue with apple. But my main complaint is that and me having to tell if blue tooth audio every time the truck goes from no key in the ignition to being turned on. And no option to have it this way
I have 6 iPhones and 4 iPads and multiple iPods. All are up to date with the Lastest IOS as soon as it's available. It's a Microsoft sync issue or maybe an issue with apple. But my main complaint is that and me having to tell if blue tooth audio every time the truck goes from no key in the ignition to being turned on. And no option to have it this way