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Old 10-22-2014, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Misterwlm
And let's not forget, RR's are nice to look at, but they're POS's. You never see many 15 year old RR's driving around...
you do though actually.... They all have their problems, including ford.

If I had the cash, there is no way i would hesitate to buy a rover over a freaking ford any day of the week, even for the price premium. They can tow a boat, and is way way more off road capable than an f150, and is much, MUCH more luxurious and refined than an f150. no cheap plastics, etc. Not even remotely an apples to apples comparison though..


Carry on complaining about payload 90 percent of us won't use lol
Old 10-22-2014, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlacknTan2
Went last night and drove a 2.7L XLT SuperCrew 2x4 and a 3.5 EB King Ranch SuperCrew 4x4. I asked the ford employee what the payload and tow rating for the truck I ordered would be (loaded lariat supercrew, 3.5 L EB and 3.55 rear end) he said the payload would be over 3k lbs and tow rating would be 12.2k lbs. I asked if he was sure, he confirmed. He also said the 3.5 EB should see an increase of 3-4 mpg over the current truck, the 2.7L is seeing 28-32 mph on the highway, and that official mpg numbers should be out in under 2 weeks. Loved both trucks, the 2.7L has plenty of power, nothing lacking in regular driving. The 3.5L was even better. One feature on the king ranch that I haven't seemed mentioned (all trucks with the LED headlights) is the auto dimming headlights. They worked great, automatically going back and forth from low to high beam depending on lighting and oncoming traffic.
I guess it's possible that some 2.7L have less turbo lag than others, but to me it was very easy to tell the difference between that engine and the 3.5L. It's not terrible, just makes me wonder what would the delta in MPG ratings be for the 2.7L and the 5.0L to give me pause to choose the bigger engine...? 5,6,7 mpg? Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by AricsFX
you do though actually.... They all have their problems, including ford.

If I had the cash, there is no way i would hesitate to buy a rover over a freaking ford any day of the week, even for the price premium. They can tow a boat, and is way way more off road capable than an f150, and is much, MUCH more luxurious and refined than an f150. no cheap plastics, etc. Not even remotely an apples to apples comparison though..


Carry on complaining about payload 90 percent of us won't use lol
Well my friend, I do have the cash...and I wouldn't buy one...good friend of mine has one...nothing but problems.
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Originally Posted by ace72ace
Do you mean the base, non towing option mirrors appear to be different? They offer a lot of different options as there are versions with light, cameras, blind spot sections, split towing views, etc.


Yes just the base mirrors not the tow ones. THey look like the are about the same height but not as wide. Could just be the pics.
Old 10-22-2014, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlacknTan2
Went last night and drove a 2.7L XLT SuperCrew 2x4 and a 3.5 EB King Ranch SuperCrew 4x4. I asked the ford employee what the payload and tow rating for the truck I ordered would be (loaded lariat supercrew, 3.5 L EB and 3.55 rear end) he said the payload would be over 3k lbs and tow rating would be 12.2k lbs. I asked if he was sure, he confirmed. He also said the 3.5 EB should see an increase of 3-4 mpg over the current truck, the 2.7L is seeing 28-32 mph on the highway, and that official mpg numbers should be out in under 2 weeks. Loved both trucks, the 2.7L has plenty of power, nothing lacking in regular driving. The 3.5L was even better. One feature on the king ranch that I haven't seemed mentioned (all trucks with the LED headlights) is the auto dimming headlights. They worked great, automatically going back and forth from low to high beam depending on lighting and oncoming traffic.
The guy with whom you spoke either didn't understand the question or doesn't know anything about the configuration of the F150. I take "loaded Lariat" to mean 502a (Lariat Luxury) plus options. Lariat Luxury negates any possibility of getting the HD Payload option as does 3.55 rear axle you mentioned, so you're not going to be anywhere near the 3k lb of a short-cab/long-bed XLT with HD Payload. I suspect your real-world payload will be around 1500 lb.
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Originally Posted by GearheadGeek
I suspect your real-world payload will be around 1500 lb.
Which seems odd to me since my 2013 502a max tow Lariat has payload sticker over 1,600 lbs. So for a vehicle that dropped ~700 lbs of body weight where did the other lbs go?

After excluding max tow I'm still missing ~ 300 lbs of payload with your estimate...

7,650 (gvwr) - 6,060 (my truck loaded with me in it) - 500 (remove max tow) + 700 (body weight savings) = 1,790 lbs
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Do not put any stock into anything these event reps are quoting. They are just as clueless and know just as little about their product as the salesmen do. 28-32 mpg, gimme a break. And 1500 lb payload per wheel? Lol where do they find these guys?
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Originally Posted by PlethoraGreen
Which seems odd to me since my 2013 502a max tow Lariat has payload sticker over 1,600 lbs. So for a vehicle that dropped ~700 lbs of body weight where did the other lbs go?

After excluding max tow I'm still missing ~ 300 lbs of payload with your estimate...

7,650 (gvwr) - 6,060 (my truck loaded with me in it) - 500 (remove max tow) + 700 (body weight savings) = 1,790 lbs
My post would have been much better if I'd written "I suspect that your real-world payload will be much closer to 1500 lb than to 3000." My 1500-lb SWAG was based mostly on the fact that the highest payload I've seen on a b-pillar in the photos of these road-show trucks (short-box SuperCrews) is 1520 lb if I recall correctly.

Since I'm planning on a '16 short-box SuperCrew in a posh trim level to replace my '07, bigger payload is better but a 3000+ lb payload on that config is only slightly more likely than my winning the lottery between now and then.

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Originally Posted by Misterwlm
Well my friend, I do have the cash...and I wouldn't buy one...good friend of mine has one...nothing but problems.
Couldn't have responded any more douchey. lol. I'm 20, ill get there.

enjoy your first year disaster truck lol

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If I had the cash, there is no way i would hesitate to buy a rover over a freaking ford any day of the week, even for the price premium. They can tow a boat, and is way way more off road capable than an f150, and is much, MUCH more luxurious and refined than an f150. no cheap plastics, etc. Not even remotely an apples to apples comparison though..
Can we please get over this Range Rover vs Ford truck nonsense?

If anyone thinks that a RR is a superior vehicle, they need to see what J.D. Power says about the quality of a RR that STARTS at $83,000. Yikes!!

http://autos.jdpower.com/research/La...UV/ratings.htm

Two star quality at a 5 star price. Such a deal, I'll buy 2. Not!


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