3.5 Eco boost regret?
#441
Yet you probably missed that you were most-likely accelerating more with the 3.5 as well. Quote from link here "wind resistance rises much more steeply between 70 and 80 mph than it does between 50 and 60"
Link: http://www.mpgforspeed.com Note: their research is for the average car, our trucks will always be much less wind resistant than the "average car".
I had a Hemi (known for bad mileage) now the ecoboost. If I drive as conservatively as you state for your 5.0 I get similar gains out of the ecoboost. It's hard because that feeling pushing you back in the seat is addicting.
Same with the Hemi, similar gains with conservative driving.
So, yes, moot, unless you misstated your driving habit change.
Link: http://www.mpgforspeed.com Note: their research is for the average car, our trucks will always be much less wind resistant than the "average car".
I had a Hemi (known for bad mileage) now the ecoboost. If I drive as conservatively as you state for your 5.0 I get similar gains out of the ecoboost. It's hard because that feeling pushing you back in the seat is addicting.
Same with the Hemi, similar gains with conservative driving.
So, yes, moot, unless you misstated your driving habit change.
I don't think the milage is moot because 80 vs 75 isn't going to make that much of a difference and that's only on the Turnpike - most of my drive is 55-65 and that hasn't changed. It's still early but my mileage with the 5.0 seams much more consistent vs my 3.5 Eco - the 3.5 was very touchy with where I had the throttle whereas the 5.0 doesn't seem to care. Sure I could get 21 with the 3.5 on a trip but as soon as I drove my usual mix of country roads to work down went the mileage to 16. My 5.0 is a consistent 18-19 all the time and this is what others have said here too. I have a Mustang GT for sound too.
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Last edited by mjbenedict; 08-07-2015 at 08:51 AM.
#442
Again, the Ecoboost acceleration is addicting. I can get 19 MPG conservatively out of 4X4 screw w/city driving. Heavy driving a 6cyl sitting at a light with no boost will get better mileage than a 8cyl.
#443
Senior Member
heavy right foot equals boost on the 3.5EB. So yes the 3.5 does have a very sensitive throttle compared to the 5.0 and that is all due to the turbos. You can learn how to drive the 3.5 and keep the engine out of boost and you will see a 2-3mpg improvement in mileage. I have just about the heaviest truck configuration made 2014 SCREW FX4 max tow 6.5' 3.73 gears and I can still squeak out 18 in the city if I am conscious about the right foot. It is totally different than driving a naturally aspirated engine to say the least.
You might as well embrace it now because this is the trend going forward. In the next 5 years or so, if you want a V8 in your truck it will be a 3/4 ton!
You might as well embrace it now because this is the trend going forward. In the next 5 years or so, if you want a V8 in your truck it will be a 3/4 ton!
#444
heavy right foot equals boost on the 3.5EB. So yes the 3.5 does have a very sensitive throttle compared to the 5.0 and that is all due to the turbos. You can learn how to drive the 3.5 and keep the engine out of boost and you will see a 2-3mpg improvement in mileage. I have just about the heaviest truck configuration made 2014 SCREW FX4 max tow 6.5' 3.73 gears and I can still squeak out 18 in the city if I am conscious about the right foot. It is totally different than driving a naturally aspirated engine to say the least.
You might as well embrace it now because this is the trend going forward. In the next 5 years or so, if you want a V8 in your truck it will be a 3/4 ton!
You might as well embrace it now because this is the trend going forward. In the next 5 years or so, if you want a V8 in your truck it will be a 3/4 ton!
#445
You cant compare a car with low COD to a heavy truck with the COD of a brick. Its much lighter so doesnt take near as much to get to speed, and once there doesnt take much to keep it there. There is also the fact the engine in a Mustang is designed to move the car quickly where the engine in a truck is designed to put lots of torwue to the ground to pull a heavy load, two different engine designs, and it doesnt matter if it has 4, 6, 8 or 10 cylinders.
The Ecoboost develops torque at 1500 and stays there all the way to redline, where the V8 has to get up to 3000 RPM or more to hit its peak torque. Also keep in mind gearing in the transmission are not even close to each other. Mustang again is designed to get it moving quickly, where the truck is designed to pull a lot of weight.
So if you want to see just how well your SC Mustang really is compared to the truck, load it up so it weighs the same as the truck, and then see how well it does. Bet it will drink a lot more fuel to do what it does now empty.
On mine, I loaded a 5* 91 perf/tow, and the MPG hasn't changed, but the trans is shifting so much better. It gits up and goes really nice now too, no more doubling down to pass a car, just a bit of go pedal and its moving. What a difference, only down side, I can still feel a bit of stutter under power up a hill when in 6th at 60 MPH. Regapped the plugs to 30, but didnt help, I'm thinking it has a weak coil pack, but no way to prove it. I like that I can get a squeak out of the rear in third when I put it down.
Love this truck! Love the Ecoboost! Love the 21 MPG!
The Ecoboost develops torque at 1500 and stays there all the way to redline, where the V8 has to get up to 3000 RPM or more to hit its peak torque. Also keep in mind gearing in the transmission are not even close to each other. Mustang again is designed to get it moving quickly, where the truck is designed to pull a lot of weight.
So if you want to see just how well your SC Mustang really is compared to the truck, load it up so it weighs the same as the truck, and then see how well it does. Bet it will drink a lot more fuel to do what it does now empty.
On mine, I loaded a 5* 91 perf/tow, and the MPG hasn't changed, but the trans is shifting so much better. It gits up and goes really nice now too, no more doubling down to pass a car, just a bit of go pedal and its moving. What a difference, only down side, I can still feel a bit of stutter under power up a hill when in 6th at 60 MPH. Regapped the plugs to 30, but didnt help, I'm thinking it has a weak coil pack, but no way to prove it. I like that I can get a squeak out of the rear in third when I put it down.
Love this truck! Love the Ecoboost! Love the 21 MPG!
#446
Military Retired
ECO Boost Road Trip
I just completed a 4500 mile road trip from Ft Worth Tx to Portland Oregon via Reno Nevada. My 2012 averaged the entire trip at 19.3 mpg. I relied on the onboard trip computer. I have a 336 gallon tank and use only regular gas. Pulling a small trailer and a John Deere XUV 550 Gator. Traveled all of the roads with high mountain passes. I-70 in UTAH and us Hwy 50 across Nevada. Across Mt Lassen in California. Never had a problem and loved ever bit of the trip except for California and Oregon gas prices all over $3.00 per gallon. and slow speeds for towing vehicles. Did not have to worry about hills. Eco boost made short work of hills. Had to wait for sslow cars.
#447
I did a similar trip in 2012 with the 12 Screw 4x4 EB and averaged about 21 MPG highway, no trailer, had a tonneu on the back too. Going through Denver in the mountains it never needed to downshift, set the cruise, sit back and relax.
#448
Lucky You
I just completed a 4500 mile road trip from Ft Worth Tx to Portland Oregon via Reno Nevada. My 2012 averaged the entire trip at 19.3 mpg. I relied on the onboard trip computer. I have a 336 gallon tank and use only regular gas. Pulling a small trailer and a John Deere XUV 550 Gator. Traveled all of the roads with high mountain passes. I-70 in UTAH and us Hwy 50 across Nevada. Across Mt Lassen in California. Never had a problem and loved ever bit of the trip except for California and Oregon gas prices all over $3.00 per gallon. and slow speeds for towing vehicles. Did not have to worry about hills. Eco boost made short work of hills. Had to wait for sslow cars.
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#449
Senior Member
There was only one reason I bought the ecoboost, test drove it, felt that torque, made my decision
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#450
Senior Member
I've really enjoy my ecoboost, with that being said it's been in for warranty work going on two time within the last couple of months and most likely the truck that replaces it will be the 5.0 or the 6.7 F250.