I would go with dirt logic shock for it. There bad *** shock. Especially for baja stuff.

 

I will check them out....I wonder if them make stuff for my old school rig? (IH)

 

Probably do. They have been around for a wile. There a branch of fabtech

 

And tires idont know. I would probably lean towards the baja claw from Micky Thompson. Or the nitto dune grappler

 

Thanks man...I need to get wrenching on my Scout. Old Iron will test your mechanics and language skills if you know what I mean.. I love that rig. Can't go anyplace without drawing a crowd and when it come to wheeling....oh yeah....

 

Haha.

 

There are a lot of misconceptions about the Raptor...

The front axle shafts are longer and are 31 spline - an FX4 has 28 spline shafts

The rear axle is a 9.75 and is wider than a 'regular' f150 - it has 34 spline shafts vs the 31's that are standard

the tow rating is lower because of the suspension characteristics - if you put a long travel on a (pick your f150) you will reduce it's towing capacity as well - that's a fact.

the Raptor comes with hill descent control - something Ford swiped from Range Rover before they sold it off

electric locking rear - which is an option now on other trucks

pre-wired aux switches for lights - a nice touch

full composite front doghouse (hood, fenders)

the Raptor comes with 3 shift strategies - street, tow/haul, off road mode - in off road mode it makes the throttle a little lazy so your bouncing foot doesn't cause you to over drive the truck - it also holds gears longer so you stay in the sweet spot of the 6.2's power.

there is some pretty cool electronic wizardry like yaw control as was already mentioned - I don't pretent to know all that stuff as my owners manual is still in the plastic.

a lift kit is not the same as long travel suspension - all a lift kit does (regardless of what shocks you install) is lower the suspension in relation to the chassis thus raising the truck, your travel hasn't changed.

you absolutely can NOT buy a long travel kit for the price difference between a Raptor and (pick your other f150 here).

A good base LT kit is close to 6k and that does not include shocks or installation, you are looking at another 4k (minimum) for front and rear shocks, ~1k for a set of rear springs and about 4k for installation since they typically don't just bolt in. This also does not account for having longer half shafts made and look, you still have 28 spline axles...

the Raptor does not have a different 'weak' frame, it is the same frame as all the other f150's, it just has different shock mounts.

I'm not saying the Raptor is the be all end all, but you have to give credit where it's due, stock for stock it is the best half ton (3/4 ton really) 4x4 pickup you can buy.

Don't even get me started on the Ram Runner - any retard can buy a truck and have someone else install a bunch of stuff... after you've spent 50k you still have the crappy base engine, no leather seats, no nav, light duty axles and it's still a Dodge. But, it has 4 inches more travel, BFD.

 

I know a raptor is cool and all. But you will never see me own one. Just don't like a raptor overall. I rather have a big truck. And just to let u know your prices are way off. 4k for shocks hahah that's was way off. I paid 1000 for all 4 shocks installed and lift kit cost 2k. install is only like 700 or less no more than that. I bought my truck for 36,000 fully loaded not 50,000 fully loaded. U can't change my mind on a raptor. It's pretty much set lol.

 

This is the classic "my sporty miata handles just as good as your mercedes amg" debate. Sometimes in life you actually do get what you pay for!

 

long travel shocks aren't the same price as OEM replacement and your lift kit has nowhere near the tech involved as a long travel, as such installation is much more expensive since fabrication is required.

LT kit without installation = 5,199.00
front LT shocks = 1,139.98 (not even top of the line)
rear LT shocks = 1,263.48 (again, not top of the line)
rear springs = 1000.00
bump stops = 256.49
shock mounts = 300.00
shock 'tuning' since they come at a generic setting = ~500.00

5199
1139
1263
1000
256
300
500 =
$9657.00 for just suspension - now a 'standard' f150 has LT but still has the light duty axles and you have to pay someone to install all this stuff - it will cost you at LEAST 4k for install.

conservative price all said and done for JUST suspension = $13,657.00

that is very conservative as the vendor's on the Raptor Forum have said repeatedly that you will burn through 15-20k easily trying to get a LT built, installed and setup correctly.

http://www.bajakits.com/long-travel-...-race-kit.html


I'm not trying to change your mind or invalidate your preferences, just educate you. I'm glad you like your truck, you don't need to downplay the strengths of the Raptor to justify your purchase.