Honestly, I'm not into the newer trucks so much. They all look the same.. Every guy who has cash buys a 04-08 and throws a Fabtech 6" lift with 20inch rims with mud tires. Use it or not. And then they have money to piss away and buy every aftermarket interior and exterior piece they can and any ol' programmer. Eh, gay.

Both of you guys are custom. It's your own truck.. not the everyday thing. I see those trucks EVERYDAY! Your guys are different lol. Plus 97-03 is the sweetest truck style ever.

The unit is $400, and well Edge is the same price lol. Custom tunes.. can't tell ya honestly. Mine was $500 for the unit and 3 custom tunes. 87 tow, 87 performance and 91 performance. It said I got a discount since I ordered the Gryphon with 3 custom tunes. So $400 for unit, $30 each custom tune. So if you order all at once you might get the discounted price, I think it's $60 a custom tune reg. I also got $40 off because of a sale...

Oh, and the custom tunes takes like 2.5 months or so, they are packed with orders.. so if you order the unit, you'll get it within a week or so, then they write the custom tunes, send it to you through this software you download, and it downloads to the unit. And you have up to a year to let them know if you add other mods to the engine and they will re-do it for free.

Holy **** I wrote alot lmao.

Oh and you and mrpomerleau is a hard choice, you 2 have the best trucks in the nominations. Other guys truck is sweet and all, but.. naa. Not my style.

Go to Powerhungryperformance.com and check the Gryphon out. It's basically an Edge Evo but aggressive canned tunes, well it is a Edge but Bill's unit lol. And they send it out, you order custom tunes written for YOUR truck only. Like, elevation, your driving habits, city/highway %, burnouts? offroad? everything. The custom tunes is made for YOUR truck only. Tell him all your mods and he helps make all that power be used to the most potential it can and keep your truck safe. I'm really impressed, I've read some of his replies to people and it's like WOW... He knows his **** lol.

Ya fish professionaly.. you ever see FLW or BASS on espn in the mornings on Saturday? ****ing awesome. I've won money fishing, just my partner wasn't on the same page, different skill levels, different thoughts.. and I was a non-boater he had the boat. And we used my truck because his POS Nissan couldn't handle it LMFAO. We used his truck like 3 times and it almost took a crap on the road. I'd be doing 75mph up the hill, his truck would be doing 25mph... I need a boat and I'll be cashing checks in no-time. !

Yeah dude I love the modding of vehicals period. I thought about going to college for it. Like, learning how installing lifts, tires, wheels, all that ****. The motor is a different story. To mind boggling, I guess I don't understand how it all works enough to get the most out of the engine with certain performance parts. Just because you buy every performance part available, don't mean it will be the fastest.. it's how they work together..

lol nice analogy.. LMFAO. Ya, I hear ya though lol. Your truck would be a beast with 38s lol.

Gryphon is a re-badged Edge. Bill at PHP(PowerHungryPerformance) use to work with Edge and then he went off on his own to do custom tuning. And Edge created the Gryphon for him to do custom tunes. And it has a little more aggressive canned tunes than the Edge. Pretty sweet, I should have it by Friday next week or mid of the week after, they were out and had to order more from Edge.

Oh yeah, I also have a muscle car that requires alot of money lol. 71' Roadrunner with a 440 big block v8 built up around 500hp and setup for Nitrous Oxide lmao. Just need money to restore it and make it driveable... So damnit, I need a bassboat to get my dream going, win money to get my truck to the fullest, then restore the car lol.

I got CAI, Exhaust and ordered my Gryphon with custom tunes.. It should make a pretty good improvement, and yet still get good gas mileage lol. I might do underdrive pulleys after a while, and just up my rpms to keep my idle good. I should get good gas mileage and decent power.. then save for a bass boat so when I go and when money and boats at the Championships I can work on my truck lol.

Sounds like you got a sick ass build sheet for your truck. It sure the hell will be worth the end result. Don't be like the idiot that owns that 97-03 Supercrew with 20" lift, 22" Rockstars with 40" tires and a Supercharged engine running 172hp on a dyno......... LMFAO.

Well, from what I'm told Shorty's do nothing to our trucks with cats. I'm told we can replace our cats with 2 hi-flow cats and pass. But I just read a craigslist ad here a guy with a 02' Supercrew has Pacesetter Longtube headers with Magnaflow Hi Flow cats and Msgnaflow muffler.. But does the Hi-Flows hurt the performance of the longtubes or does it not affect it? Longtubes are suppose to make a good different in hp and torque..

Did you think I said I have 80k IN my truck? I got 80k miles on it.. lol.

Ya I've known Alma since I was small, she always gave me autographed mags and **** from the competitions. ****ing Bronco is crazy loud. Just mind blowing.. lol.

What do you know about shorty headers vd longtube headers? Arizona's emissions blow so we can't remove cats.. so longtube headers can't be put on since they delete the cats?..

That's crazy. Sorry to hear though. ****ing theives. I wish I had a sunroof!

Have you heard of Alma Gates? She had the worlds loudest vehical for the audio competition for a long time. Had a red bronco and then a silver bronco?

I got just under 80k on my truck, I'd like to do a lift, 35s and re-gear but damn miles rack up and my truck isn't paid off yet! And I'd like to buy a bassboat before I throw down cash on my truck so I can go out and kick some ass in tournaments... !!!