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Old 04-18-2016, 09:07 AM
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Default LED Light Bars Wouldn't Turn Off - Had To Disconnect Battery

Quick question for the lighting experts out there. I have TONS of lights on my truck and ran them all to one switch, wired directly to the battery with a relay. I wired them up myself but had a buddy hook up the relay and stuff to the battery. I had the lights all on the other night and when I went to flip the switch to turn them off, none of them turned off. Kept flipping the switch back and forth and nothing, they just stayed on. I ended up having to disconnect the 8 gauge wire that was hooked up to the battery.


Any idea what went wrong? Bad switch? Bad ground somewhere?


Thanks!


(here are all the lights I have)



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If a relay is overloaded enough, the contacts can weld together. Then it will not open. Ever.
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If a relay is overloaded enough, the contacts can weld together. Then it will not open. Ever.
Yup, this is what happened. You have too much power going through the relay.
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You should have 1 relay per lightbar normally, some smaller lights you can get away with combining them. Check with the manufacturer of the lights & see what voltage they are pulling & see what the recommend.
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What amperage they are pulling.
Relays are rated for Amps just like fuses. So you can use your switch to operate several relays and spread the load to several relays. Or buy a relay rated for more load.
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Originally Posted by ADDcole
You should have 1 relay per lightbar normally, some smaller lights you can get away with combining them. Check with the manufacturer of the lights & see what voltage they are pulling & see what the recommend.
The voltage is always going to be 12 since that is what the battery produces. The current (amps) is the important part. The number of light bars per relay doesn't matter so long as the total number of amps for ALL light bars connected to the relay does not exceed the current rating for the relay. And generally, you don't want to exceed 75% of the rated current load.

Also, you should have a fuse on the lead wire from the battery, BEFORE the relay, which should have only slightly more current capacity than the total for all the light bars.
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ahh you know what I meant, amps/volts/watts, tomato/tomata, haha. Either way, way too many lights for 1 relay .
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Originally Posted by Samuel Stainback
The voltage is always going to be 12 since that is what the battery produces. The current (amps) is the important part. The number of light bars per relay doesn't matter so long as the total number of amps for ALL light bars connected to the relay does not exceed the current rating for the relay. And generally, you don't want to exceed 75% of the rated current load.

Also, you should have a fuse on the lead wire from the battery, BEFORE the relay, which should have only slightly more current capacity than the total for all the light bars.
I was just about to repeat this. This is accurate.
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If for some reason you don't know the AMPs for a light, but you do know the wattage: watts = amps x voltage. So the AMPS = watts / 12.

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Originally Posted by discodave
Quick question for the lighting experts out there. I have TONS of lights on my truck and ran them all to one switch, wired directly to the battery with a relay. I wired them up myself but had a buddy hook up the relay and stuff to the battery. I had the lights all on the other night and when I went to flip the switch to turn them off, none of them turned off. Kept flipping the switch back and forth and nothing, they just stayed on. I ended up having to disconnect the 8 gauge wire that was hooked up to the battery.


Any idea what went wrong? Bad switch? Bad ground somewhere?


Thanks!


(here are all the lights I have)


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