tomjv

You appear to be a vendor. Who's lights do you like better, Rigid or Baja?
They both look like good products.



Rigid lights are rated at IP68(waterproof). Apparently, they're hermetically sealed. BD specifies good to 9'.

I didn't see the temperature and BD says 5K.

Rigid forbids the customer from servicing the unit. BD encourages it(lens repair etc)

BD seems to be more expensive, but also they seem to have WAY bigger numbers on lumens if you're willing to pay.
Rigid definitely has a lower priced entry level.

IDK where either are made.

TomJV

tomjv

Here's a link to a page with some good info:
Unfortunately, it's an Aussie page, so the brands and stores may not be relevant, but the explanation of the technical standards is good.

https://www.4x4australia.com.au/gear...hts-comparison

230748

I like Baja better. I have more rigid on my truck then baja but only because the ADD bumpers I used only put in mounts for the Rigid style lights, which sucked. I went back/forth with my Baja rep for weeks trying to come up with a way to get their OnX series bar installed but I didn't want to sit on a $1,600 light bar if I could not get it working (they have a return policy but I don't like doing that to them).

I have the squadron sports on my lower a-pillar and they are BRIGHT. I really wnted their OnX6 bar with the white/yellow combos.

BD temps are 5k and I think rigid are near the 6k line. 5k is what Baja prefers since most of their customers are Baja Racers and that color temperature works better through dust/fog/etc... the whiter your light, the harder it is on your eyes. The 5k does not give you eye fatigue and most of their customers use their lights as headlights (baja racers don't have headlights, lol)

I like the BD u-service, EVERYTHING is replaceable. Plus made in america and i know this becuse sometimes I have to wait for them to get parts so they can finish building lights for me.

BD and Rigid are about the same price point when you factor in the discounts. BOTH require us dealers to stick with VERY FIRM prices (we can't advertise for less then certain prices) but most BD and Rigid (i sell both) dealers can work one on one with customers for pricing.

I sell a lot of Baja to be honest and have yet to have anybody send anything back (other then one guy who ordered the wrong kit).

The BD lights are smaller, which some guys HATE. I hate a customer order his first set of Baja and wanted to send them back... light was very small. I told him "go turn it on" and after he did, he loved them. They look small when you get them but WOW do they pack a punch.

Baja are made in California... Rigid... not sure, their factory somewhere in the states but I don't know how much of their stuff is actually made in america. I'd reckon it is USA made because they have B/O order issues all the time which tells me production is slower (takes more time to make a quality product in america then having bulk items made overseas... but you get better seals/etc...)


Soo for me. I'd go with Baja Design if I could and if not, Rigid 2nd. Baja's starting to come out with a lot more light bar style products.

tomjv

Thanks for the info. That said, what do you think of the XL80s driving combo in place of my Morimotos? I have the F150 chrome package and stock LEDs. I'm trying to figure a clean install.
I'd like to do that and maybe a 10" bar with a couple wides and spots.

I was looking at the Smitty bar butbthen I got to thinking it might loom silly with those tiny units. Then I considered the ease of theft...
TomJV

230748

Def. an awesome upgrade but you can get a lot of light with our XHP50 series bulbs in your existing fog light housings. Granted you'll still have that factory fog light housing but a ton of light.

The XL80's are $789.95 retail $710.95 dealer price (another 10% off being a forum member of course) and are definitly awesome.

The XL80 are 9500 lumen each so that's 19,000 lumen. Definitely more then our XHP50 which are 6,000 lumen each. The XL80 pull 80W each so you'd need to wire in a relay which isn't a huge deal (you can buy the H10/9005 wires from us, cut the end off, wire that to your relay so when your fogs are on, it triggers the relay). In fact when you buy the pairs you get a free switch kit so you can use that relay and just cut the switch off and use that as your trigger from the factory wiring.

Honestly if money was no object for me and I still had my factory bumper I'd probably do just that. I might do the yellow XL80 though to give me some really awesome light to cut through the bad weather. The ZES series we have come with yellow filters but they are only about 3,000 lumen a bulb.

The XL80 will blow those away.

On the 2013 (if that is what you have, but your photo is of a 2015)... either way Baja does make a fog light bracket for our trucks.

On the 2015: https://www.bajadesigns.com/products...Pocket-Kit.asp

2009-2014: https://www.bajadesigns.com/products...-Light-Kit.asp

Let me know when you are ready/decide what you are doing. As I said we get the best pricing on Baja.

tomjv

I see Rigid makes a pocket kit as well as Baja. The difference is, the Rigid kit accomodates 4 units, two 3 each side. Their video suggests wiring one set of DOT fogs via the stock fog harness, then running a new relay switched set of off road floods/spots. Certainly, Rigid allows for more choices. I'm wondering though if the BDs will just beat them anyway. Personally, the BDs look like a better product all around, but Rigid is no slouch either.


That said, I'm not much for fog lights anyway. I've never had a situation where I said "Gosh, lucky I had those fog lights!". That said, I'm wondering if I should do the XL80s with the BDs kit and later install a set of Rigid fogs into the plastic trim on the bumper. IS THIS POSSIBLE? HAS ANYONE DONE IT?
Rigid has drop-in units. Their video shows the removal of the trim and there are holes in the metal superstructure behind.


I figure I can run the XLs via a relay driven my my high beams and a master ON/OFF switch in the cabin. Anyone know a good place to tap into the high beam circuit?
The Rigids will run plug and play off the stock fog switch.



Here's a guy that did the bumper mod.
https://www.f150forum.com/f83/bumper...lights-371839/

TomJV

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If you put a set of the Baja in you'll never need the Rigid as you'll get WAY more lumen with the Baja lights. The XL are what 9,500 lumen each whereas the D2's are only 3,000 each

tomjv

10-4, Thank you for the input.
I was thinking about the patters. I'm thinking of going driving/spot on the baja, then straight yellow fog on the Rigids ... later.
TomJV