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Old 11-10-2011, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by easy smeasy
ok, i started reading through the posts, but i dont have the time to check every page, so sorry if its a repeat question. my truck is a 2010 FX2, and i plan on ordering my kit through DDM. i want hi/low beam head lights and whatever is needed for foglights. i was planning on going 55 watt headlights and 35 watt fog lights all in 6k. my question is will there be a difference in the color because of the wattage...or better yet, do you recommend going with 55 watt head lights or should i stick with 35 watt heads and fogs? also what bulbs should i get for both? and i saw a post on one of the first few pages saying that if you order a single bulb kit, it doesnt come with a wiring harness for the plug and play effects. so does this mean im gonna have to rig it up for the fog lights, or is that something totally different. sorry for so many questions, im completely clueless when it comes to h.i.d.s
stick to 35w on all of them. 55 is brighter but too high of power to run on our truck and can lead to issues sooner. take it from experience from me, ORDER QUALITY KITS. buy cheap, you get what you pay for lol. plus, riding down the road with one of your lights out is pretty embarrassing and makes your truck look junky, this WILL happen with cheap crappy kits, possibly several times
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Originally Posted by mSaLL150
What I recommend you do to save the hassle of crappy parts going out is this. Return everything to stock: put the halogen bulbs back in and wire them to the factory harness. Rip out all the crappy HID parts, throw them in a box or throw them away (sucks you spent so much for crap, but you learned from it and won't do it again). Save up some money and when you are ready down the road, purchase a headlight retrofit kit from TRS for ~$300 (mini H1). Then PM me or use my guide on this site to do the retrofit yourself. I can walk you through it.

Leave your foglights Halogen, halogen temperature penetrates fog better than HID anyways.
the guy who put in my hid's said both my fog could be out cause of a popped fuse? can hid's do that? if these damn things screwed up the stock lighting of my truck i'll be pissed.
Old 11-11-2011, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mSaLL150
Nothing will correct the scattering, period. The arc shaped HID capsule completely misses the focal point of the factory reflector which was designed for a thin filament sourced halogen bulb. It doesn't matter how the HID bulb is inserted, the scattering will always be there and the F150 reflector is one of the worst out there because the HID capsules for H13 tend to sit closer to the focal point for the high beam, launching light into the eyes of oncoming traffic instead of down on the road in front of you.
By no means is it as good as a proper D2S retrofit, but - have you even used the PnP kits in our truck? I dropped one in while I wait on my new parts to come in and I'm surprised at the focal point and optical clarity. You belittle the kits, but even the Chinese made products do have engineering behind them, and they do hit the mark as far as positioning the arc for the best possible beam output - considering the difference in hardware. Regarding your comment towards the H13 PnP being particularly bad, reference my post where I note the bulb is two pieces. The first piece orientates the bulb, and locks it in horizontal to the housing, ensuring the bulb, which is horizontal by default, is correctly aligned for low beam. Only when power is supplied thru the wiring harness and trips the electromagnetic base, does the bulb lower and dip into high beam. Same relative positioning as a standard H13, low beam filament on level, high beam below.
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Ok so 35watt heads it is!...are you refering to DDM kits as cheap? what bulbs do i need to go with, there seems to be a list of choices on the site?
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Originally Posted by easy smeasy
Ok so 35watt heads it is!...are you refering to DDM kits as cheap? what bulbs do i need to go with, there seems to be a list of choices on the site?
DDM are cheap, but some people have used them with no problems. HID's are just hit or miss, sometimes everything will work, sometimes you'll get bad parts. You run a less chance of bad quality if you spend a little more for name brand kits. All the Chinese sounding brands are made by the same company, and are just branded different names
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Originally Posted by 04_lariat_4x4
DDM are cheap, but some people have used them with no problems. HID's are just hit or miss, sometimes everything will work, sometimes you'll get bad parts. You run a less chance of bad quality if you spend a little more for name brand kits............
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Originally Posted by easy smeasy
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Dude, just read through this thread. Vendors and links to good HIDs have been posted all over.
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Originally Posted by Reatki
By no means is it as good as a proper D2S retrofit, but - have you even used the PnP kits in our truck? I dropped one in while I wait on my new parts to come in and I'm surprised at the focal point and optical clarity. You belittle the kits, but even the Chinese made products do have engineering behind them, and they do hit the mark as far as positioning the arc for the best possible beam output - considering the difference in hardware. Regarding your comment towards the H13 PnP being particularly bad, reference my post where I note the bulb is two pieces. The first piece orientates the bulb, and locks it in horizontal to the housing, ensuring the bulb, which is horizontal by default, is correctly aligned for low beam. Only when power is supplied thru the wiring harness and trips the electromagnetic base, does the bulb lower and dip into high beam. Same relative positioning as a standard H13, low beam filament on level, high beam below.
Yes, I have used the PnP bixnon kits before and I was run off the road due to their glare and almost rolled my truck. You may think the focal point is hit by the HID bulb due to the increased intensity, but your eyes are fooling you. The glare is ridiculous, I can't believe I ever used them. Even if the Arc hits the focal point *perfectly* the glare will still be there since a round Arc is far wider than a thin/straight filament that the reflector is designed and shaped for. Nothing can correct that except a projector or a reflector designed for HID arc, period.
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First of all, yes I did read all 59 pages of this thread. Lots of great info! Thanks to all. My question is does anyone have any experience with EVS Motors? They advertise on this forum. I contacted them about a DOT compliant HID set-up. Ted, the guy I've been in contact with, claims he has a DOT compliant projector housing he can sell me. I am waiting to hear back from him to confirm if his set-up uses an actual HID projector or if it's just a halogen projector type set-up.

In all honesty I don't care if it's DOT compliant or not but I do want to go with a full projector set-up. I'm not willing to do the conversion myself for many reasons. Lack of patience being one of them! I'm waiting to hear back from Lightwerkz but I suspect they may be fairly pricey.

Feedback from anyone who has dealt with EVS Motors would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Haven't dealt with EVS, but I've heard good things about Lightwerkz.

Black Flame Customs is another company that will do the retro for you.
http://blackflamecustoms.com/services/
Headlight RetroFit Pricing:
* Starts at $529 depending on options & application

Custom built packages can include:
* High-Output Single or Bi-Xenon Projectors
* High Performance HID Ballasts
* Your choice of 4300k, 5000k or 6000k HID Bulbs
* Shrouds of your choice
* Plug-and-Play wiring
* Upgraded city/parking lights
* Upgraded turn signal lights
* Paint scheme of your choice

* Brand New Headlight Housings

** Permanent Sealed Headlights have an additional labor & material charge.

Turn around time is generally 3-7 days, depending on your options.

BlackFlameCustoms can also supply new headlight housings depending on your application. Please contact us for details. Our products section also has options for select completed headlight packages.

BlackFlameCustoms offers full removal & installation services of your headlight housings for this custom application. Please contact us to get started.


*Above pricing does NOT include the cost of headlights. Pricing outlined is for your set of headlights, which can be sent or dropped off to us for custom work.

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