Would you tow this
#21
Senior Member
You clueless people go ride in a loaded super b....then get back to me on dangerous overloads.....pickups are wayyyyyyy under rated because so many morons who can barely drive an empty honda civic try towing their pile of junk rv and crash it because they are pathetic. .....so they drop their recommendations down to stupid low levels to help those who don't know how to drive.
Its like all the plane and helicopter crashes due too crappy pilots.
Never ever ever shoukd a rig, car or aircraft crash....but many people try operating them that should never handle anything more dangerous than a donut.
Its like all the plane and helicopter crashes due too crappy pilots.
Never ever ever shoukd a rig, car or aircraft crash....but many people try operating them that should never handle anything more dangerous than a donut.
Yes, engineers design with a factor of safety. But the factor of safety is there for a reason... it's so that devices can be operated safely at the limits of the design constraints. Sure, you can exceed these constraints, but then the device is not being operated safely.
It's entirely up to the user to decide how comfortable he/she is operating while knowingly exceeding the factors of safety, and to what extent. Not only is safety compromised, but also things like warranties and validity of insurance claims. Everyone's comfort level of risk is different, but that doesn't mean that everyone are clueless morons.
#22
You clueless people go ride in a loaded super b....then get back to me on dangerous overloads.....pickups are wayyyyyyy under rated because so many morons who can barely drive an empty honda civic try towing their pile of junk rv and crash it because they are pathetic. .....so they drop their recommendations down to stupid low levels to help those who don't know how to drive.
Its like all the plane and helicopter crashes due too crappy pilots.
Never ever ever shoukd a rig, car or aircraft crash....but many people try operating them that should never handle anything more dangerous than a donut.
Its like all the plane and helicopter crashes due too crappy pilots.
Never ever ever shoukd a rig, car or aircraft crash....but many people try operating them that should never handle anything more dangerous than a donut.
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Ricktwuhk (05-19-2016)
#23
2011 Harley Davidson AWD
Thread Starter
For the record, I have plenty of towing experience. Nothing super heavy, but travel trailers, 5th wheels, boats, cargo trailers etc. Heaviest was probably my dads 5th wheel. 10k with his F250.
#24
Senior Member
My serious and short answer to the OP from my experience is no. Your travel with a travel trailer is supposed to be fun and relaxing. Shop for the trailer you want and the tow vehicle to pull it as a package. If you are going to get one or the other first...get the tow vehicle first, and get a vehicle with 10% more rated capacity than you think you will possibly need.
My other reaction is to what I have "learned" from reading all these forums for a couple of years. If I was to believe some on these posts, I would think I could put on airbags, upgraded sway bar, a tune, a lift and level, aftermarket cold-air intake, cat-back exhaust, 22" wheels/tires and a hitch, de-badge the truck, and start pulling semi-truck trailers today easily for hire. It's only those rascals in Ford Marketing. Ford engineers, and trucking interests in cahoots with the government that put artificially low ratings on the trucks, prevent us from towing what these pickup trucks can really pull, and putting the trucking industry as we know it out of business. These advice-givers used to be amusing but after a couple of years, the novelty pales.
My other reaction is to what I have "learned" from reading all these forums for a couple of years. If I was to believe some on these posts, I would think I could put on airbags, upgraded sway bar, a tune, a lift and level, aftermarket cold-air intake, cat-back exhaust, 22" wheels/tires and a hitch, de-badge the truck, and start pulling semi-truck trailers today easily for hire. It's only those rascals in Ford Marketing. Ford engineers, and trucking interests in cahoots with the government that put artificially low ratings on the trucks, prevent us from towing what these pickup trucks can really pull, and putting the trucking industry as we know it out of business. These advice-givers used to be amusing but after a couple of years, the novelty pales.
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Ricktwuhk (05-20-2016)
#26
I think the HD is just a heavy truck. C&D tested it at 6245 lbs so that sounds about right since the non max tow trucks had 7350 lb GVWR. That would put you right around 1100 lbs payload.
My guess is that your truck is more than fine to tow it from a capability perspective, its up to you on whether you want to bend to rules and exceed GVWR and GCWR.
My guess is that your truck is more than fine to tow it from a capability perspective, its up to you on whether you want to bend to rules and exceed GVWR and GCWR.
#27
1202 placards on each side and front and rear.
Class 1 license although not required.
TDG and WHMIS....Which all who pull bulk fuel here do.
As she says all the time.
A rig loaded under it maximum weight is a hazard.
A modern pickup pulling more than its supposed maximum weight handles great.
She drives my Peterbilts frequently as well.
Throw a legal load on my big rigs and they handle it very badly in my opinion. ...yet its legal.
I pull a trailer several thousand pounds over with an f150 and damn it feels like diddly back there.
I drive big rigs to....have my class 1 and air and TDG.
Hell my class 8 trucks pulling a completely empty trailer even should handle as good as my f150 puling 13k pounds.
Class 1 license although not required.
TDG and WHMIS....Which all who pull bulk fuel here do.
As she says all the time.
A rig loaded under it maximum weight is a hazard.
A modern pickup pulling more than its supposed maximum weight handles great.
She drives my Peterbilts frequently as well.
Throw a legal load on my big rigs and they handle it very badly in my opinion. ...yet its legal.
I pull a trailer several thousand pounds over with an f150 and damn it feels like diddly back there.
I drive big rigs to....have my class 1 and air and TDG.
Hell my class 8 trucks pulling a completely empty trailer even should handle as good as my f150 puling 13k pounds.
#28
Senior Member
My serious and short answer to the OP from my experience is no. Your travel with a travel trailer is supposed to be fun and relaxing. Shop for the trailer you want and the tow vehicle to pull it as a package. If you are going to get one or the other first...get the tow vehicle first, and get a vehicle with 10% more rated capacity than you think you will possibly need.
My other reaction is to what I have "learned" from reading all these forums for a couple of years. If I was to believe some on these posts, I would think I could put on airbags, upgraded sway bar, a tune, a lift and level, aftermarket cold-air intake, cat-back exhaust, 22" wheels/tires and a hitch, de-badge the truck, and start pulling semi-truck trailers today easily for hire. It's only those rascals in Ford Marketing. Ford engineers, and trucking interests in cahoots with the government that put artificially low ratings on the trucks, prevent us from towing what these pickup trucks can really pull, and putting the trucking industry as we know it out of business. These advice-givers used to be amusing but after a couple of years, the novelty pales.
My other reaction is to what I have "learned" from reading all these forums for a couple of years. If I was to believe some on these posts, I would think I could put on airbags, upgraded sway bar, a tune, a lift and level, aftermarket cold-air intake, cat-back exhaust, 22" wheels/tires and a hitch, de-badge the truck, and start pulling semi-truck trailers today easily for hire. It's only those rascals in Ford Marketing. Ford engineers, and trucking interests in cahoots with the government that put artificially low ratings on the trucks, prevent us from towing what these pickup trucks can really pull, and putting the trucking industry as we know it out of business. These advice-givers used to be amusing but after a couple of years, the novelty pales.
the thing that I've learned while reading forums is that if you listened to the weight police, they would have you towing nothing but a tent trailer with a current half ton pick-up. if you want anything bigger than that, you need a 1-ton dually to control all that "weight".
reality is that if you can't tow a trailer with a tongue weight of 700lbs with your half ton truck, you're doing it wrong.
don't expect someone to spend $80k on a 1-ton dually diesel when their current F150 is MORE than adequate to do the job.,
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WestsydeGuy (05-25-2016)
#29
Senior Member
You know the limits and understand them. Violate them at your peril. Have an accident with me and I will be telling the cops to weigh things to see if you were over capacity and then sue you for all you've got, and take every penny your family has and leave them on the street.
So,... no.
Last edited by Ricktwuhk; 05-24-2016 at 05:39 PM.
#30
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Have an accident with me and I will be telling the cops to weigh things to see if you were over capacity and then sue you for all you've got, and take every penny your family has and leave them on the street.
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WestsydeGuy (05-25-2016)