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Old 07-20-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by vrtical
I just set mine up with WDH and airbags . running about 1100 tongue weight. Took a bit of time as I set it up both ways to verify weight transfer and measurements, but on my setup. I ended up 6-7 pounds in the bags just for stability and the WDH did the rest and put my front is within 1/2" to less of stock and I am not on the helper rear springs. trailer is within 1/2 level I will recheck everything it once I drive some and on flat ground. FYI with this psi in the bags,its about 1" of less rear ride height vs not using the airbags if you hook up without the WDH. I did get it setup within spec without the airbags, but wanted them for some stability. If I tried to run a bunch more air like 15-20 pounds, it would just counter act the WDH big time. 40lbs per 1 psi doesnt take much. I plan on a maiden voyage this week covering about 1200 miles and will see how it is.
Vrtical --- I have pretty much the same set-up as you (about 900 lb payload with the Fastway-E2 WDH) and although everything is level and tows very well, I'm also considering airbags just for a little more stability. I have plenty of payload, just looking a a little more stability. Thanks
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Can't imagine having such a retarded huge house trailer of a camper that sits an F350 dually down that much.
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Originally Posted by 13XLTEco
Can't imagine having such a retarded huge house trailer of a camper that sits an F350 dually down that much.
It a horse trailer with living quarters. Very heavy rig.

But you are right, maybe you should choose what people buy or how they live their life.

You must be having a bad night. Hope it gets better.
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@jcb206 I wasn't replying to you and it is none of your business but I am having a great night.
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So I'll say, normally I'm keen on NOT using airbags. Though I suspect with my level, bags may be needed to give me a half inch boost in the rear given my 33' TT with a 12k equalizer. Maybe, but I'm not sold on it yet.
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Originally Posted by 13XLTEco
Can't imagine having such a retarded huge house trailer of a camper that sits an F350 dually down that much.
Just to be clear I am well inside the ratings of the truck. Here is a pic of a weigh slip hooked up. The truck weighs 8400 appx with full fuel and set up to tow. The trailer is 17140(25540-8400). The GCW 25540 with two horses, two people full fuel, all gear loaded for a show. This leaves ample room in all ratings for another horse, my kids and water in the fresh tank. The other horse we haul is about 1200, water 800 that loads out the trailer. Two more kids= 250 added to truck. Total GCW max-is 8650(truck full fuel and 4 people) + 19140 trailer= 27790.

The max ratings for my truck are GCWR 32100, so good to go there, max trailer 23500 so good to go there, 9650 RAWR, so good to go there. GVWR is 14k, with trailer at 17140 with 4 passengers we are at 13k. That leaves 1000lbs of head room. We could add half of the expected increase trailer weight (at max load) to the pin weight and be under both RAWR and right at GVWR. Since it is putting less than 26%(empty RAW=3670, 17140 GTW = 4400 pin weight for 8k RAW hitched up) on the pin now, that is not likely. We dont often haul 3 horses so never really an issue.



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Originally Posted by 13XLTEco
@jcb206 I wasn't replying to you and it is none of your business but I am having a great night.
Oh, I know. You were replying to 5.0GN tow. People buy what they want and what they can afford. Thankfully this is still America.

Enjoy your purchases as others enjoy theirs.

Very happy to hear all is well. Have a good day Sir.
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Originally Posted by 13XLTEco
@SixShooter14 , do you mean good to encourage people to haul more than the rated payload ?
nope. I have a leveled truck with 2112# payload.... I have considered adding bags to prevent rear-end sag, but I don't haul a lot very often. Even a stock height truck, if you put 1500# in the bed, it'll likely point your headlights up blinding the oncoming traffic. As well as look goofy, even if you aren't overloading the GVWR, GAWR, or tires.

There are times when air bags are OK. But they don't change the ratings of the truck.
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I worked on my trailer today, pulled all four wheels and hubs to check the brakes and seals. Good thing I did, one seal was bad and slung grease all around inside, but thankfully none got on the linings. In any case, when I was all done I moved it to my new pad where it is all nice and level and took some measurements.

Front unhitched height, 36 1/4
Rear unhitched height, 38

Hitched without bars
Front 36 7/8"
Rear 36

Fully hitched up
Front 36 (was one link too much, had some bounce too)
Rear 37

I don't know what this sag everyone talks about, truck is almost level when properly hitched up. With one less link my front will come up 1/4". My hitch weight is over 1000 pounds too.
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