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Old 02-17-2017, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by msgtord
http://changingears.com/rv-sec-calc-...eight-tt.shtml

Weigh your truck then go to this website and plug in the numbers.

The numbers that count are on your Vin plate and payload sticker.

Where did you get the speck sheet?
Spec sheet from fordf150.net
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...specifications
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Lots of discussion on the forum about whether the payload includes a 150 pound driver, and the conclusion has been that NO, it does not. It is included in other areas, but not in Payload.
Rick - I was hoping you or Smokeywren would weigh in.
Again, just trying to figure out what Ford is doing.
The spec shows the payload would be 1750# (or 1800#??).
While the sticker shows 1524#.
I don't have any idea if I am right or not, but it doesn't seem to me that adding just a Moon Roof, Running Boards and Spray-in bedliner would add 226# (or 276#).
But it does make sense that the 150# driver allowance plus these add-ons might be more along the lines of 250# +/-.
Does that sound like it makes sense to you?


For everyone worried about my weight, I know to use the sticker to get me close. I am not going to ignore it and think that because I found a spec sheet on the internet, I magically have another 226# of payload.
Again, I'm just trying to figure out the difference between the two numbers, both of which are supplied by Ford.
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The sticker is based on the weight of your specific vehicle as it is equipped. The Ford numbers are based on the basic model for each style/trim.

My 2015 Scab has 1541 lbs from the sticker. I have the 302A options pkg and while you would think it shouldn't make a lot of difference in payload capacity it does.
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Originally Posted by old_programmer
The sticker is based on the weight of your specific vehicle as it is equipped. The Ford numbers are based on the basic model for each style/trim.

My 2015 Scab has 1541 lbs from the sticker. I have the 302A options pkg and while you would think it shouldn't make a lot of difference in payload capacity it does.
This is what I thought. It just felt like the added features didn't add up to 226#. Maybe they do.


I hate my stationary running boards. They aren't far enough away from the truck for me to use them. SO they are basically shin bangers. I'd like to take them off, but the truck does look better with them than without.
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There was a thread discussing weight of options, and maybe a link if I recall. I believe the moonroof is around 100 pounds from what I remember reading.

Sticker on truck doesn't include any occupants. Many of Ford's charts include a 150 pound driver.
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
There was a thread discussing weight of options, and maybe a link if I recall. I believe the moonroof is around 100 pounds from what I remember reading.

Sticker on truck doesn't include any occupants. Many of Ford's charts include a 150 pound driver.

I didn't give it enough thought, but if I do, the glass, the motor and metal frame, it does now make sense that it could be as much as 100#. Running boards could be 40# - 50# each. Bedliner??? That could be 226#.

Now, back to the really important question: Where did my 50# go on the Ford Spec Sheet?
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Here's one to have fun with. My last truck was a 2014 Screw EB RWD Lariat 501a package. It was lightly optioned, no moonroof, no running boards, and it had a payload of only 1470#.

My new truck is a 2016 4WD Screw, same size as the 14, loaded up 502a package, Moonroof, power running boards, pretty much everything you can put on it, does not have max tow, just standard tow package, but it has a 1583# payload.

It's funny, they both have very similar GVWR, the Aluminum body is the difference. I got a fancier truck and gained 113# of payload.
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Originally Posted by humblerb
Do running boards, spray-in bedliner, moon roof really add 226# of weight?
There is not really anything else I can think of that would have been added to take away from my payload.
Is it the driver's 150# allowance that is missing from this equation?
The driver's weight is not included in the payload; you must deduct your own weight as a driver from the payload before you can determine how much trailer can be towed.


See: https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...load_SB_v5.pdf and scroll down to page 4-9.


Moonroof 64 pounds
Running Boards 29 pounds
Spray-In Bedliner 16 pounds


But, you have to deduct payload for XM radio, power seat, brake controller, tinted windows, radio, upgraded wheels over the XL trim steel wheels, adjustable pedals....even two tone paint and window tint takes away some of your payload capacity.
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Originally Posted by Velosprout
The driver's weight is not included in the payload; you must deduct your own weight as a driver from the payload before you can determine how much trailer can be towed.


See: https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...load_SB_v5.pdf and scroll down to page 4-9.


Moonroof 64 pounds
Running Boards 29 pounds
Spray-In Bedliner 16 pounds


But, you have to deduct payload for XM radio, power seat, brake controller, tinted windows, radio, upgraded wheels over the XL trim steel wheels, adjustable pedals....even two tone paint and window tint takes away some of your payload capacity.
BINGO! 19 lb Lariat weight increase wouldn't even cover 18" wheels and tires + power seats.

If anyone cares the 101A Sport or Chrome Package is actually lighter than a base 100A, Aluminum Wheels save 19 lb and Fog Lights 3 lb (Apparently lighter than the blockoffs).

PS That 16 lb Spray-In Bedliner doesn't seem likely. On the 2015 they show 45 lb for Spray-In Bedliner.

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Originally Posted by Velosprout
The driver's weight is not included in the payload; you must deduct your own weight as a driver from the payload before you can determine how much trailer can be towed.
The truck's base weight also includes a full tank of gas. As I have the 36 gallon tank that adds about 80 lbs to the base truck weight over the standard 23 gallon tank.


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