Weight distributing or not
#11
Yes the weight carrying capacity ratings on the 2017s is crazy high but it’s still not practical to tow that way. Ford does a lot things with the tow ratings that doesn’t make sense, I think it’s just for bragging rights and marketing more than anything else. Another thing that bugs me is how they say the fifth wheel TWR is limited to 18k because of the Reese18k hitch yet the gooseneck ratings are 20600. They make the same hitch in 25k why not use that one and make them equal?
#12
I think I just realized why the fifth wheel rating is 18k. Since most RVs are Fifth wheel any higher would be over the 26k that would require a class A license. Someone commercial is more likely to use a gooseneck for heavy towing, not requiring the extra space above the pin for a master bedroom.
#13
Hot shots come to mind when you hit the 26K class. You need a CDL at that point.
#15
I think I just realized why the fifth wheel rating is 18k. Since most RVs are Fifth wheel any higher would be over the 26k that would require a class A license. Someone commercial is more likely to use a gooseneck for heavy towing, not requiring the extra space above the pin for a master bedroom.
The 26k doesnt have much to do with it, since you can be over 26k and be legal as long as its an RV. This is why the really large Horse Trailers with LQ like my new 42 foot GN are titled as TT, not just a work trailer. It also keeps them cheaper to plate in most states I think and for sure in Ohio. RVs can be well over 26k and still be legal to drive non CDL. This varies by state, but there are only 8 or 10 that require special licenses and most of those are non CDL endorsements to a standard operator license.
Last edited by 5.0GN tow; 11-04-2017 at 04:05 AM.
#17
Originally Posted by leje0306
Please re-read the OPÂ’s opening remark.
To the OP, the best way to find out is to tow your trailer a short distance. When I had my 2500, I did not use WDH for my airstream with about a 800lb tongue weight.
To the OP, the best way to find out is to tow your trailer a short distance. When I had my 2500, I did not use WDH for my airstream with about a 800lb tongue weight.
Asides from a little extra hook up time, it can’t hurt anything going with WD, so I’ll just do that.
#18
Just looked it up, there are depending on the type of vehicle either 8 or 10 states out of 50 that require license or endorsement beyond a standard operators O/L and then only if you live in those states. All states honor another states OL requirements.
#19
Senior Member
No it makes zero sense but i guess they went from a 2.5" reciever in 2016 to a 3" in 2017 so I assume that may be part of it. I'd be curious to see what the actual hitches say on those trucks. Imagine 2100#s pushing down 4 feet behind the rear axle!? I bet a set of sticky drag radials and the torque from the new diesel and you could do wheelies.
My thought on the whole thing is that it doesnt matter what the truck is, the same trailer is going to unload the front the same amount all else being the same. A diesel cover up this problem becuase it adds so much weight to the front axle that the unloaded weight may not be that bad. I see guys around here with 3/4 and 1 tons that probably dont technically require WDH, but their rear ends are crushed down just like any half ton.
My thought on the whole thing is that it doesnt matter what the truck is, the same trailer is going to unload the front the same amount all else being the same. A diesel cover up this problem becuase it adds so much weight to the front axle that the unloaded weight may not be that bad. I see guys around here with 3/4 and 1 tons that probably dont technically require WDH, but their rear ends are crushed down just like any half ton.
#20