WDH Setup - Ford Guidelines
#11
I agree there are many out there that have experienced the same type of problem as you have had. If a combo can’t be stable with only minimal WD and maintain a reasonable speed something is fundamentally wrong. Ideally a hitch shouldn’t be used to solve the problem though that’s the route many take.
#12
Senior Member
I agree there are many out there that have experienced the same type of problem as you have had. If a combo can’t be stable with only minimal WD and maintain a reasonable speed something is fundamentally wrong. Ideally a hitch shouldn’t be used to solve the problem though that’s the route many take.
If you don't adjust the WDH to correct/solve the problem (poor handling/sway/etc), how do you solve the problem??
#13
There’s really no easy answer to that question. He’s pretty much proven that changing hitches did not solve the problem but did show improvement. A epas flash has yet to proven as a resolution but it may be. Some characteristic of the combination seems to have reduced the critical speed below normal operating speeds. It could be just the right combination of TV weight, wheelbase, CG, suspension stiffness, steering ratio and tires for his trailer. The trailer has its own characteristics such as weight, CG, suspension, effective tongue length, inertia, and tires too. Once you attach these two together it becomes a complex system. A incorrectly setup hitch can indeed be the problem and it is quite common but it’s not always the source. There’s many towing with the same truck configuration that don’t have any problems at all.
#14
Senior Member
I agree there are many out there that have experienced the same type of problem as you have had. If a combo can’t be stable with only minimal WD and maintain a reasonable speed something is fundamentally wrong. Ideally a hitch shouldn’t be used to solve the problem though that’s the route many take.
#15
Returning 25% forward is something, but not much though. It is expected for the combo to dampen sway naturally and not be reliant on a hitch for stability. I agree for a lot combos that just isn’t going to be possible.
#16
Senior Member
Check out this youtube video regarding proper weight distribution set up. After watching this, I would think that retaining a near stock weight on the front axle is a good thing for stability, control and braking.
#17
Well a setup that worked well for one truck, no stability issues, but doesn't work on another one, with the only change being the tow vehicle, would be what then? If using a more capable hitch, setup per the hitch manufacturers recommendations corrects the issue, then whats the argument? Per the manual for Blue Ox, it says to level the trailer and truck and by returning the front fender to unloaded height levels the truck, then it is correctly setup, and handles like it should.
#18
Senior Member
I towed with a ‘76 and a ‘78 Chevy short bed standard cab 4x4 trucks and I would set the hitch so the front dropped as much as the rear and I couldn’t even tell the travel trailer was back there except for lacking power. The difference was there was a rather thick spring pack, I bought an 02 Silverado and added another leaf to the rear to make it tow the same trailer solidly. Now with the new truck it has the same problem, it is not the trailer as much as the soft car like suspensions. The new trucks definitely have more power but the suspensions aren’t as good even thought the manufacturers rate them to tow far more.
#19
Well a setup that worked well for one truck, no stability issues, but doesn't work on another one, with the only change being the tow vehicle, would be what then? If using a more capable hitch, setup per the hitch manufacturers recommendations corrects the issue, then whats the argument? Per the manual for Blue Ox, it says to level the trailer and truck and by returning the front fender to unloaded height levels the truck, then it is correctly setup, and handles like it should.
#20
Senior Member
8100 you are looking at it only from one side, while I agree that the trailer needs to be set up properly, there is always the chance the truck is causing the problem. Why would there be so many people with towing issues on this truck and not others. The suspension and frame may be the problem not the trailer. There was a 2015+ F150 locally that I saw with a toolbox mounted behind the cab, it had a load on it but it wasn’t sitting on the bumpers, I was behind it and when it hit a bump it sort of wallowed around on the road, it was doing no more than 45 mph.